Jump to content
SAU Community

Recommended Posts

  • Replies 80
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

There's a handful of different reasons ranging from heavy clutch kicking, revving too high, poor assembly of the engine when it was rebuilt, damaged crank prior to rebuilding but wasn't picked up before it was assembled......and the list goes on

I'd need to see every single piece in detail to be able to tell you exactly how it failed.

I know the old owner and heard story's that he loved to reclutch it everywhere.. Also the high revving he use to do as well, I believe the crank that was in it was in good form and it good balanced and all

No, but it will have been damaged by the same f**k-knuckle driving as damaged the motor.

speaking of engine damage, does a few bounces off the limiter cause any of the above issues, i set my limit to 6000rpm but when the tyres loose grip its bit hard to stop it bouncing off it, id imagine in the drift and drag area they'd be doing this all the time..

speaking of engine damage, does a few bounces off the limiter cause any of the above issues, i set my limit to 6000rpm but when the tyres loose grip its bit hard to stop it bouncing off it, id imagine in the drift and drag area they'd be doing this all the time..

My limiter is set 300 higher than I plan to take it just so I never hit it

speaking of engine damage, does a few bounces off the limiter cause any of the above issues, i set my limit to 6000rpm but when the tyres loose grip its bit hard to stop it bouncing off it, id imagine in the drift and drag area they'd be doing this all the time..

My limiter is set 300 higher than I plan to take it just so I never hit it

Yeah, that is the heart and soul of the problem and one of the solutions. Limiter bashing is very bad. Occasional limiter clipping is probably OK, but Murphy's law dictates that you will break an oil pump drive even on an occasional limiter bump. If the engine won't self destruct by running at faster revs than some notional rev limit, then it is better to let it just rev up over that notional rev limit occasionally, rather than hit an electronic rev limit possibly more frequently.

Edited by GTSBoy

Yeah, that is the heart and soul of the problem and one of the solutions. Limiter bashing is very bad. Occasional limiter clipping is probably OK, but Murphy's law dictates that you will break an oil pump drive even on an occasional limiter bump. If the engine won't self destruct by running at faster revs than some notional rev limit, then it is better to let it just rev up ober that notional rev limit occasionally, rather than hit an electronic rev limit possibly more frequently.

thanks for the info, will raise it back up and be careful then

cheers

thanks for the info, will raise it back up and be careful then

cheers

Can also retard timing tapering back from your desired limit a few hundred revs.. Ill be getting this done on my next tune. that way you lose lots of power before limiter so you wont be going near it deliberately. And it softens the limit somewhat I believe. i.e. my limit is 7700 atm, start retarding at that to a 8000 limiter..

Has anyone got feedback on this idea?

And back on topic, how much kicking has one got to do to abliterate a thrust bearing!?!?

Haha yep f**ked on a hole

New level,

Not using anything off that motor apart from the head and cams

Started all over, bought a block girdle and crack, rods bearings main studs, motor should be finished been built this weekend

That is shockingly bad. Whatever the problem the owner would have known this engine was seriously broken LONG before he took his foot off the loud pedal.

Go out and buy a stock RB25, go from there. You can keep some ancillaries from this engine as spare.

Personally I'd take it to a different engine builder.

Hahaha funny thing is, when the owner was trying to sell it he was saying the day after it bogged down and it got hot he started it up and there was no knocks or anything... BULLSHIT lol thing would of been knocking its head off,

I got the car pretty cheap knowing something big or small could be stuffed didn't think this much damage would of been done in 2000ks tho

Yes I have started again with a NEW bottom end and the motor is been built by a different person (not the person that built it the first time)

Wow man, I just had a read thru this thread....

What a heartache, half of me feels sorry for you...

The other half says 'serves you right' for NOT test driving a car before purchase! Mate, that is such amatuare mistake to make. Sounds like you got caught up in the moment, the word 'skyline' tends to blind ppl to the obvious sometimes. Hopefully this whole experience opened your eyes a bit and has made you more cautious about buying things without inspection in the future.

What I am interested in tho is,

What was the total cost to get it runing again at the end of the day? (includes original purchase price, parts and labor)

Cause from what I have seen, it sounds like it could of cost a fortune.

Wow man, I just had a read thru this thread....

What a heartache, half of me feels sorry for you...

The other half says 'serves you right' for NOT test driving a car before purchase! Mate, that is such amatuare mistake to make. Sounds like you got caught up in the moment, the word 'skyline' tends to blind ppl to the obvious sometimes. Hopefully this whole experience opened your eyes a bit and has made you more cautious about buying things without inspection in the future.

What I am interested in tho is,

What was the total cost to get it runing again at the end of the day? (includes original purchase price, parts and labor)

Cause from what I have seen, it sounds like it could of cost a fortune.

Lol first of all mate, I bought the car off a mate, already knowing something was wrong with it, etc (head was already removed from car) no one new what could be wrong with it and on purchase I knew it could turn out to be a f**ked bottom end, and it doesn't bother me as I paid for the car at a low price (what some people would pay for rego and insurance)

I only had to build the bottom end, but I've also gone with nitto rods nitto oil pump ho volume sump new garret gt3540 new plenum new throttle body

Lol first of all mate, I bought the car off a mate, already knowing something was wrong with it, etc (head was already removed from car) no one new what could be wrong with it and on purchase I knew it could turn out to be a f**ked bottom end, and it doesn't bother me as I paid for the car at a low price (what some people would pay for rego and insurance)

I only had to build the bottom end, but I've also gone with nitto rods nitto oil pump ho volume sump new garret gt3540 new plenum new throttle body

Just seems like a hell of a lot of trouble to go thru to get a working/running Skyline.

There are 33 out there (running) for like $5K. I was just interested as to why you've chose the 'hard road' so to speak?

Might just be me, but anyone that sells you a lemon is no 'mate'... Unless he didn't want to sell it to you because of the issues with it, but you insisted, in that case he is quilt free.

Everybody's logic is different, but I just don't see the sense in buying a wreck? I could maybe also understand if you had always wanted a skyline but didn't have enough cash and then this popped up at the right price, so u grabbed it.

I'd still love to know the total cost of this exercise $$$? But if you don't want to say, I will respect that.

Either way, best of luck with it. Hope it works out.

Edited by AshR34GTT

Just seems like a hell of a lot of trouble to go thru to get a working/running Skyline.

There are 33 out there (running) for like $5K. I was just interested as to why you've chose the 'hard road' so to speak?

Might just be me, but anyone that sells you a lemon is no 'mate'... Unless he didn't want to sell it to you because of the issues with it, but you insisted, in that case he is quilt free.

Everybody's logic is different, but I just don't see the sense in buying a wreck? I could maybe also understand if you had always wanted a skyline but didn't have enough cash and then this popped up at the right price, so u grabbed it.

I'd still love to know the total cost of this exercise $$$? But if you don't want to say, I will respect that.

Either way, best of luck with it. Hope it works out.

Could have a running car for $5k but it wouldn't be anywhere near what his car is going to be and sounds as though he paid that little that if he wanted he could get a stock rb25 motor drop it in and still have done well

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now



  • Similar Content

  • Latest Posts

    • As discussed in the previous post, the bushes in the 110 needed replacing. I took this opportunity to replace the castor bushes, the front lower control arm, lower the car and get the alignment dialled in with new tyres. I took it down to Alignment Motorsports on the GC to get this work done and also get more out of the Shockworks as I felt like I wasn't getting the full use out of them.  To cut a very long story short, it ended up being the case the passenger side castor arm wouldn't accept the brand new bush as the sleeve had worn badly enough to the point you could push the new bush in by hand and completely through. Trying a pair of TRD bushes didn't fix the issue either (I had originally gone with Hardrace bushes). We needed to urgently source another castor arm, and thankfully this was sourced and the guys at the shop worked on my car until 7pm on a Saturday to get everything done. The car rides a lot nicer now with the suspension dialled in properly. Lowered the car a little as well to suit the lower profile front tyres, and just bring the car down generally. Eternally thankful for the guys down at the shop to get the car sorted, we both pulled big favours from our contacts to get it done on the Saturday.  Also plugged in the new Stedi foglights into the S15, and even from a quick test in the garage I'm keen to see how they look out on the road. I had some concerns about the length of the LED body and whether it'd fit in the foglight housing but it's fine.  I've got a small window coming up next month where I'll likely get a little paint work done on the 110 to remove the rear wing, add a boot wing and roof wing, get the side skirt fixed up and colour match the little panel on the tail lights so that I can install some badges that I've kept in storage. I'm also tempted to put in a new pair of headlights on the 110.  Until then, here's some more pictures from Easter this year. 
    • I would put a fuel pressure gauge between the filter and the fuel rail, see if it's maintaining good fuel pressure at idle going up to the point when it stalls. Do you see any strange behavior in commanded fuel leading up to the point when it stalls? You might have to start going through the service manual and doing a long list of sensor tests if it's not the fuel system for whatever reason.
    • Hi,  Just joined the forum so I could share my "fix" of this problem. Might be of use to someone. Had the same hunting at idle issue on my V36 with VQ35HR engine after swapping the engine because the original one got overheated.  While changing the engine I made the mistake of cleaning the throttle bodies and tried all the tricks i could find to do a throttle relearn with no luck. Gave in and took it to a shop and they couldn't sort it. Then took it to my local Nissan dealership and they couldn't get it to idle properly. They said I'd need to replace the throttle bodies and the ecu probably costing more than the car is worth. So I had the idea of replacing the carbon I cleaned out with a thin layer of super glue and it's back to normal idle now. Bit rough but saved the car from the wreckers 🤣
    • After my last update, I went ahead with cleaning and restoring the entire fuel system. This included removing the tank and cleaning it with the Beyond Balistics solution, power washing it multiple times, drying it thoroughly, rinsing with IPA, drying again with heat gun and compressed air. Also, cleaning out the lines, fuel rail, and replacing the fuel pump with an OEM-style one. During the cleaning process, I replaced several hoses - including the breather hose on the fuel tank, which turned out to be the cause of the earlier fuel leak. This is what the old fuel filter looked like: Fuel tank before cleaning: Dirty Fuel Tank.mp4   Fuel tank after cleaning (some staining remains): Clean Fuel Tank.mp4 Both the OEM 270cc and new DeatschWerks 550cc injectors were cleaned professionally by a shop. Before reassembling everything, I tested the fuel flow by running the pump output into a container at the fuel filter location - flow looked good. I then fitted the new fuel filter and reassembled the rest of the system. Fuel Flow Test.mp4 Test 1 - 550cc injectors Ran the new fuel pump with its supplied diagonal strainer (different from OEM’s flat strainer) and my 550cc injectors using the same resized-injector map I had successfully used before. At first, it idled roughly and stalled when I applied throttle. Checked the spark plugs and found that they were fouled with carbon (likely from the earlier overly rich running when the injectors were clogged). After cleaning the plugs, the car started fine. However, it would only idle for 30–60 seconds before stalling, and while driving it would feel like a “fuel cut” after a few seconds - though it wouldn’t fully stall. Test 2 – Strainer swap Suspecting the diagonal strainer might not be reaching the tank bottom, I swapped it for the original flat strainer and filled the tank with ~45L of fuel. The issue persisted exactly the same. Test 3 – OEM injectors To eliminate tuning variables, I reinstalled the OEM 270cc injectors and reverted to the original map. Cleaned the spark plugs again just in-case. The stalling and “fuel cut” still remained.   At this stage, I suspect an intermittent power or connection fault at the fuel pump hanger, caused during the cleaning process. This has led me to look into getting Frenchy’s fuel hanger and replacing the unit entirely. TL;DR: Cleaned and restored the fuel system (tank, lines, rail, pump). Tested 550cc injectors with the same resized-injector map as before, but the car stalls at idle and experiences what feels like “fuel cut” after a few seconds of driving. Swapped back to OEM injectors with original map to rule out tuning, but the issue persists. Now suspecting an intermittent power or connection fault at the fuel pump hanger, possibly cause by the cleaning process.  
×
×
  • Create New...