Deadlift Progress And Improvement Thread

[bozodos]

well the 3 mores is something I learned from him FIGJAM, and something I put into practice now, so I'm ALWAYS doing one of them, every single session.

[rev210]

well the 3 mores is something I learned from him FIGJAM, and something I put into practice now, so I'm ALWAYS doing one of them, every single session.

To consider... What are your increases going to be determined by?

1)What you think you can do?

or

2) What you think you 'have' to do?

or

3) What you think you 'cant' do?

What are people's answer to this one; 1,2 or 3?

[Birds]

All three

[bozodos]

thats right

[rev210]

It's true in practice these are all going on.

Which one do you consider the most important in determining magnitude of increases & improvements?

Edited August 22, 2013 by rev210

[-FIGJAM-]

i try to increase in 2.5kg incraments, however I always make sure my total volume for every exercise improves, either by pushing for that extra rep, another set or more weight.

[L33SH]

It's true in practice these are all going on.

Which one do you consider the most important in determining magnitude of increases & improvements?

for me it would be what I think I can do

[markos]

Okay, I have no secrets.

Martin deadlifts today, he is on the 290kg program

Regular deadlifts - 145kg x 12 x 3 sets

Block pulls - worked up to 270kg x 3

Deficit deadlifts - worked up to 200kg x 12

Bent rows - worked up to 120kg x 8

DB rows - worked up to 60kg x 10

This was Week 1 of his program, designed to peak on November 17

Thats everything in full, thats what Martin is doing for deadlifts, ignore the weight, I have listed all the exercises, reps, sets (sort of)

Is there any more information you require........without a video lol

By the way, the majority of our PL team is doing this

[rev210]

for me it would be what I think I can do

1)If you think you can . You might

2)If you think you have to . You will

3)If you think you can't . You won't.

For consideration.

Eliminate 3 . Change 1 to 2.

You will probably find you are doing this to some degree without thinking about it.

Eg:If I was to set a goal of Deadlift 350kg

I've never done it. Maybe I think I can't do it now subconciously. Maybe I think I can 'eventually' lift it. I certainly don't think I have to.

Given this, if deadlifts were part of my regular training, I would definately not get there anytime real soon. Any progress attempts I will make will be restrained and comfortable and I will probably enjoy the program, while taking forever to go nowhere near 350kg.

Edited August 22, 2013 by rev210

[markos]

Zoran on the 305kg program, peaking for September 8th

Deadlifts - 290kg x 1 x 3 sets

Block pulls - 220 x 3, 240 x 3, 260 x 3, 280 x 1, 300 x 1

Deficit pulls - 240 x 5, 210 x 8

Thats the whole workout

[bozodos]

sounds a bit like the stuff rev is doing, I find that interesting because it is such low reps. Obviously for the very advanced lifters.

I did SLDL 85 x 15 3 times tonight, I've noticed two things. I'm getting better at it, and my grip is not the point of failure any more.

Going to give regular deadlift a go next time to see how it's improved.

I've also decided I want to concentrate on weight loss for now, so I'll keep on with the linear progression as far as I can.

Edited August 22, 2013 by bozodos

[Birds]

1)If you think you can . You might

2)If you think you have to . You will

3)If you think you can't . You won't.

This is pretty much the reason why people quit gym before seeing success, as those who have been going long enough to get reward from it, know they have to keep it up, else lose those rewards. For those who haven't seen success, it starts off as a "think I can" and can all too quickly fall into a "I can't" if there is no reinforcement (I've always maintained that if you could give someone results straight away, they would never quit...hence I stress focus on strength goals to distract from the slow onset of physical changes).

Yet even for those who have seen success, it's easy to fall into the trap of believing in your limitations, and so your accountability towards your goals takes a dive.

Same goes for coaching; there's more accountability in it when you are lifting not just for yourself, but to meet the expectations of another. This is why I've seen more improvement than ever, since documenting my lifting on here: I have to lift the weight or people see that I'm all talk hahaha

As for people who do incredible things, they are usually the ones who won't stop until they are satisfied, and for them, satisfaction is a dangling carrot that will never be caught, but must forever be chased after. You may never catch it, but you will end up miles away from mediocre.

[bozodos]

did regular DL today, 110x5, 140x5, 140x5, 140x4 110x5. Very pleased that it's improved.

[Birds]

Good work boz, now stick a big single in there somewhere to lift up the numbers

[bozodos]

what just into the middle of a regular set?

[Birds]

Wherever after a warmup, middle is fine...or can stick it at the end like I do. Doesn't have to be huge, just 10kg above your current max weight, so maybe one rep of 150kg. You'll clear it easy. Then try for 155kg or 160kg the week after.

Shit will make your 140kg seem light as and once you're doing a 160kg single, you will be able to get about 7 of 140kg out.

[bozodos]

ah yeah I get you. I think doing the SLDL and a more focused approach to training is helping it - not having the grip issues now either.

[Birds]

You can get a 180kg deadlift in 1 month!

doitfgt.jog

[bozodos]

there would be some very embarassed big guys in my gym if I were to manage that

[Birds]

there would be some very embarassed big guys in my gym if I were to manage that

Now imagine how good that's gonna feel and go chase it