Jump to content
SAU Community

Give Me A Ride Or Opinion (Please!) - Bilstein Or Coilovers

darksky34

By darksky34,
in New South Wales

 Share

Recommended Posts

darksky34 Mentor

darksky34

Posted
Posted

Alright guys, time to make final decision regarding my suspension.

It's come down to:

Bilstein + king springs

OR

HSD coilovers (recommended by a few mechanics I've spoken with)

OR

Cusco coilovers (undecided on model yet)

These are listed in no particular order, though Bilsten and HSD are more in my budget I think. My purpose: Street only, will never/rarely hit the tracks. Want comfort and handling as top priorities so obviously a compromise will have to be made regardless of what I choose.

Is anyone able to give me a ride in their car with Bilsteins+Spring setup? I haven't actually been in one and would like to see how it is, especially as my mechanic said they would still be a bit harsh for AU roads and thus still recommended me HSDs. And budget is ~1500$ as evident by choices listed. Thanks for your help!

AngryRB Grand Master

AngryRB

Posted
Posted

the first option is probably more legal, but the second will allow adjustments and would be my pick I think,

You want to be very careful about spring rates , from what I hear, fronts 8 and back 6 would be good, or go even softer , f 6 and r 4 for extra comfort.

Watchamacallit Collaborator

Watchamacallit

Posted
Posted

I guess the question is what is the budget? I'm running with SydneyKid's Bilstein setup on my 34 GTR after changing from S Tunes and for me personally, I find it a lot better. Sacrificed a little bit of the handling for a more comfortable ride whlie still retaining the feel of the car. I went with the setup on PSS9s and not on just Bilstein shocks so I have some of the adjustability, though I'm sure the shock/spring combo (Eibachs) are very similar.

darksky34 Mentor

darksky34

Posted
  • Author
Posted

^my budget is ~$1500. So your GTR Bilstein setup isn't on-car adjustable? I guess for some people there's really no need for it to be adjustable like that. People like me. I won't be getting Eibachs as SK has informed that their spring rates aren't as suitable to Aussie roads as King spring (for example) are.

MrStabby Grand Master

MrStabby

Posted
Posted

My purpose: Street only, will never/rarely hit the tracks. Want comfort and handling as top priorities so obviously a compromise will have to be made regardless of what I choose.

In that case 8/6 will definitely be too stiff. Bilsteins with 6/4 will be in the ballpark. IIRC thats what SK used, but check the Group Buy thread, it should still be there.

Oh and they're all "coilovers" - there's no other suspension type in skylines.

NISSAN GTR Veteran

NISSAN GTR

Posted
Posted

6 months ago i had stockies with Tein lowering springs - $ 300 - found the rear of the car was bouncing due to the short travel length of the stockies ,

So i bit the bullet and have new Bilsteins $1100 with Tein Lowering springs , ride is great a bit harder than stock still comfortable 40mm drop at the front and 25mm rear , with no body roll .

Im like you, i will never have to adjust suspension again also was sick of coilovers short lifespan and of course the illegal coilover factor with my other cars .

I think you could do better than king springs , what drop do they give

darksky34 Mentor

darksky34

Posted
  • Author
Posted

6 months ago i had stockies with Tein lowering springs - $ 300 - found the rear of the car was bouncing due to the short travel length of the stockies ,

So i bit the bullet and have new Bilsteins $1100 with Tein Lowering springs , ride is great a bit harder than stock still comfortable 40mm drop at the front and 25mm rear , with no body roll .

Im like you, i will never have to adjust suspension again also was sick of coilovers short lifespan and of course the illegal coilover factor with my other cars .

I think you could do better than king springs , what drop do they give

I asked 'wholesale suspension' (a distributor of King) and they said ~30mm drop from stock height. This was for the 'lowered' springs (there are also 'standard' and 'super low' and 'raised').

you reckon I should go with other springs? any other recommendation? SK told me that he did a test (recently) on the Eibachs and found it wasn't suitable for our roads, which is why I looked at King.

darksky34 Mentor

darksky34

Posted
  • Author
Posted

not quite sure of the model actually, I'm getting them from SK so whatever they are from the groupbuy that he had a few years ago, I'm getting the same thing! can't wait to get them in....

darksky34 Mentor

darksky34

Posted
  • Author
Posted

hey Nick, yeah I've seen that thread and believe me I would have gone that route but I believe that they only made PSS9s for GTRs and since i have a GTT the damper rates will be different and hence valving is unsuited to me. Unfortunately. Not to mention the difference in height as GTRs have different weight distribution to the GTTs. I know a lot of the terms i mentioned above are vague and possibly incorrect but that's just quickly off the top of my head.

  • 4 weeks later...
  • 3 weeks later...
Dose Pipe Sutututu Grand Master

Dose Pipe Sutututu

Posted
Posted

I've had SK's Bilstein shocks in my previous R33.. awesome stuff, but I would recommend upgrading your anti roll bars (sway bars as they're known) at the same time. Because you're running forgiving spring rates you still will experience some body roll, to eliminate that just upgrade to decent anti roll bars.

I would suggest something like 24mm front and 24mm rear (some will say why not get 27mm front, it's because most run staggered wheels so the car will understeer naturally)

Just my 2 cents :)

Don't get HSD, get BC BR.. they're much better for the price.

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
 Share
Go to topic listing


  • Similar Content

  • Latest Posts

    • Murray_Calavera
      New lightweight, square wheel/tyre combo for the E90

      By Murray_Calavera · Posted

      What type of track driving will you be doing?  Do you have a set of class rules you need to abide by that will limit your rim / tyre width?
    • PranK
      New lightweight, square wheel/tyre combo for the E90

      By PranK · Posted

      I've been reading a lot lately about unsprung weight and how beneficial it can be to reduce it for driving on the track, given my semi's only have another day or two in them I am throwing around the idea of some lighter wheels and a square set up. I have 265/35/19's and 245/40(?)/19 Federal 595's at the moment. The wheels and tyres are super heavy. I looked up my wheel weight online and got 14.5kg naked. Not sure if this was 8.5 (front) or 9 (rear) but that's a lot. I have also been reading about the benefits of a square setup. Much better rotation and potentially less understeer.  When I throw these together I'm thinking about a 17x9 or 18x9 square (preferably under 10kgs per wheel) with 245 or 255's. I can get some cheap 17x8.5 BMW M Sport wheels, they weight 10.5 kg's each but at 8.5 wide could probably only get 245's on them? I know they come with 255's from factory but semi's are a bit chunkier. Otherwise it will be aftermarket wheels in a 9" width. Most of the other BMW wheels are heavy unless you pay a squillion dollars for some M wheels.  Although, the E46 M3 Style 67's could be good but I'd have to buy 2 sets to square them up.  My car has a tickle over 400hp and about to put an LSD in also, is 245 a little thin for a square setup? It kinda feels that way to me. Also, is there any tangible benefit to having 18's over 17's? Is the footprint demonstrably bigger? From those of you who went to light(er) wheels after heavy buggers, did you notice it much?
    • GTSBoy
      RB26dett R33 gtst swap

      By GTSBoy · Posted

      Start with the R32 GTR wiring diagram. The ECU is essentially the same, so the pinouts are good. The details around ECCS relays, etc might differ a little bit, but the reality is that you need to get ignition power to kick the ECU so it powers up the ECCS relay which brings the rest of the ECU up. This also gives power to the other circuits that are needed to make the engine run, like the ignition coils, etc. All of this is visible on the R32 diagram and should give you a strong guide, even if it's not quite the same as the R33. As to specifics - I'm pretty sure no-one can help you from afar, as there is no way to know what mistake or omission has been made in connecting stuff up. It always turns out to be "LOL, I shorted something and an entire wire vanished out of the loom", or "We never connected X or Y main connector", or "shit, you mean I need to have that fuse installed?".
    • r33.antwone
      RB26dett R33 gtst swap

      By r33.antwone · Posted

      hello wanted some insight on what my problem could be so i swapped a RB26DETT into my r33 gtst used a R33 GTR engine harness and im using a haltech platinum pro. The car cranks but no start the ecu isn’t getting any power now im trying to find out why i cant seem to find any schematics  or diagram for the engine harness for the r33 gtr anything helps thank you.
    • DraftySquash
      Looking for someone with a R34 front bar

      By DraftySquash · Posted

      hahahaa @GTSBoy that is my last resort. Like use a cardboard and cut it using the indicator as a reference. But I was winging my luck to see anyone had a spare bumper because drawing the outline off the hole is always easier and less chance of mucking it up
×
×
  • Create New...