Stagea Handling

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Hi, I'm a new guy here, been lurking for a while but I'm here now. LOL.

Anyway, I've got a S1 auto 4WD 2.5T, and the handling is a bit poo. Nothing is broken or worn out, but it just understeers a bit. Now, I though the 4WD was like a GTR? Is it like a GTR or is the auto different. Are there any gadgety things I can fit to the 4WD to help the understeer? It's like there is too much 4Wd or something.

Thanks

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[KiwiRS4T]

Bigger rear sway bar e.g. Whiteline BNR11XX24mm

[Trex]

I've always wondered if those torque split controllers would work. It should work in a 32 but 33 & 34?

[Duncan]

yeah the standard stag does understeer under power which is pretty normal for a big, front heavy wagon.

Bigger rear sway bar e.g. Whiteline BNR11XX24mm

this is a great place to start, and I'd do the front sway bar as well. They really transform how the car feels because the factory bars are small for such a big car. I've also done shocks and springs later.

Once you fix the balance you will probably by happy with when it understeers and when it oversteers....

I've always wondered if those torque split controllers would work. It should work in a 32 but 33 & 34?

Most 4wd controllers only modify the standard system, and all of them can only add front wheel drive (or turn front wheels off completely), they can't reduce front wheel drive. There are a couple of expensive systems that replace the whole attessa system; they may be able to reduce fwd.

[Atom]

Thanks for the replys chaps.

Upgrade swaybar it is.

On the subject of 4WD controllers, have you heard of Skylab Fusion? There is a guy in the UK who has made the GTR ATTESA work for the Stagea. I don't know if anyone on here is a member of their club?

http://stageaownersclub.s4.bizhat.com/viewtopic.php?t=1788&mforum=stageaownersclub

[Greanmachine UK]

"guilty" as above

I now have the skylab fusion working on my series 1 .

I know the guy who makes the fusion in the UK and we spent quite a while working out how to get it to work.

To get the best of the system the cars handling needs to be better than standard , for example an lsd really helps ( a GTR one will Fit)

Mine also has a manual conversion and an RB26 but the fusion will work on any series one stagea

The fusion has much faster g sensors ( digital I think) and this includes lateral sensors which the S1 doesnt have.

Not surprisingly the stagea attessa ecu isnt able to deal with lateral sensor inputs as it doesnt have them. A GTR does so we looked at using a GTR attessa ECU.

The ECUs can be swopped - the pin out are the same although the wiring is different. With a GTR attessa and the fusion it all works and the results are really impressive.

It doesnt understeer !!!

It is a bit more complicated than a simple plug and play but certainly not beyond anyone as long as they understand basic wiring diagrams and can use a soldering iron.

I can do a thread about the conversion if people want to read it

Edited April 24, 2013 by Greanmachine UK

[deanoss]

Yeah please do conversion thread.