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Yeah its been around for some time :yes:

I like his honesty though -

"DO NOT WASTE MY TIME if you have no money dont bother me i am old and grumpy."

:laugh:

Would still set you back $100K plus to replicate it too.

Bargain IMHO.

Pete has been trying to sell her for a while now unfortunately without much luck. Pity as its a beautiful car and would be a shame to have it fall into the hands of a test pilot with money to burn which could potentially see it on the 6 o'clock news ploughed into a wall.

The owner is obviously a pretty wealthy guy. Its been for sale for agesss, years I reckon. I have seen it time and time again for sale. I blame not just the steep price but the old-era styling. If I were him, ide update its cosmetic condition to suit current times and trends that sell. He could probably sell the bodykit and wing for a bit to someone whos after a genuine good condition item. Stock bodykit + better fitment + respray if he wants to fork out for it. Yeah, obviously going to cost alot to do that but I think it would sell the car. At the minimum stock wing + some better wheel fitment would help it sell. That shade of purple isnt everyones pick of colour.

The biggest issue for a lot of people in the know is that it's not a Gtr, it's a gts4 with all the gaurds fitted. Which means no "bcnr" chassis number and for a lot of people that makes a lot a difference

Maybe not to an uneducated buyer. He's not exactly selling a worked commodore here :)

If you want a monster and wish to save about $20k, this would be the way to do it.

no he's selling a Toyota Lexcen badged as a commodore...
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only if he's trying to sell a GTR as a GTS4...

So by the same token Autech did exactly the same thing with the 260RS. Not too many complaints about that car. Only thing of note was the popular R34 GTR nose conversion.

Unless you've actually seen the vehicle in person, please don't make armchair judgements about what he is and isn't selling.

It is a nice car in it's own right. The beauty is in the eye of the seller and buyer.

no doubt a fortune spent. Appreciate it for what it is.

Personally I don't like the shape of the 33 skyline. Be it GTS, T, 4 or an R.

But that's me.

different strokes for different folks

Edit: Although I don't like seeing cars badged what they aren't

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So by the same token Autech did exactly the same thing with the 260RS. Not too many complaints about that car. Only thing of note was the popular R34 GTR nose conversion.

Unless you've actually seen the vehicle in person, please don't make armchair judgements about what he is and isn't selling.

I think the difference here is that the Autech 260RS is a factory-certified model, and it had extra chassis bracing as well as the R33 GT-R drive-train installed.

Personally, I'm not a fan of the R33 either, but I've gotta give credit for the work that's been put into the Advan car.

So by the same token Autech did exactly the same thing with the 260RS. Not too many complaints about that car. Only thing of note was the popular R34 GTR nose conversion.

Unless you've actually seen the vehicle in person, please don't make armchair judgements about what he is and isn't selling.

I'm not making judgement. I'm stating a FACT.

The car is a GTS4, and it is being sold as a GTR.

Now you bring AUTECH into this... Lets have a think about this... Autech is what? A Subsidiary of Nissan. IE, it is like HSV to Holden. What they badge their cars, is what they actually are... Autech 260RS = a factory vehicle. IE, Nissan may as well have just sold it as a Nissan 260RS.

The big difference would be, the Autech could have any number of huge power modifications made to it by Autech, but that's classified as FACTORY. So when you go to get your insurance you list it as an Autech 260RS that is STANDARD. This car you would need to list as a Nissan Skyline GTS4 (Because that's what it is) and then list each and every modification, and make sure engineering covers each and every modification.

I hope you can see the difference between calling a factory car a factory car, and calling a highly modified car a completely different model of car.

I'm not making judgement. I'm stating a FACT.

The car is a GTS4, and it is being sold as a GTR.

Now you bring AUTECH into this... Lets have a think about this... Autech is what? A Subsidiary of Nissan. IE, it is like HSV to Holden. What they badge their cars, is what they actually are... Autech 260RS = a factory vehicle. IE, Nissan may as well have just sold it as a Nissan 260RS.

The big difference would be, the Autech could have any number of huge power modifications made to it by Autech, but that's classified as FACTORY. So when you go to get your insurance you list it as an Autech 260RS that is STANDARD. This car you would need to list as a Nissan Skyline GTS4 (Because that's what it is) and then list each and every modification, and make sure engineering covers each and every modification.

I hope you can see the difference between calling a factory car a factory car, and calling a highly modified car a completely different model of car.

I brought Autech into this as I thought you were concerned about the quality of replication due to the car being a conversion.

....after all that, the weight of your argument which justifies the reduction of the asking price by $40-50K is the fact that you would have to list all the mods on your insurance policy (which you probably already do for your current vehicle)........and that the vehicle would be listed as a GTS4 instead of a GTR (which might even save you some money on your premium.....god knows I'm paying more per year on my GTR then I ever was on my old GTST).......

THAT is your justification???

I know your concerned about the re-badging and calling it something it's not but trust me when I say (with exception of the sunroof and VIN) this thing is about as much a GTS4 as what's sitting in my garage right now.

Also, I don't know why your talking about engineering (I assume you mean VSCCS compliance).

The vehicle was personally imported and complied with the mods already done (Yellow Tag). The vehicle is VSCCS compliant.

.....I don't recall Autech actually selling any vehicle through Nissan that had what you call "huge power modifications" either. Even with the radical design changes of some, they were still lightly tuned. They still had to suit the requirements of the JDM after all.

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