Walbro F90000267 E85 Pumps , Not Too Big For Road ?

[discopotato03]

Hi all , if your sick of fuel pumps threads go elsewhere .

As many know I've been searching and asking about suitable E85 EFI fuel pumps for road use and from what I've read/heard pumps like Bosch 044s Nismos may not live long lives because ethanol doesn't lubricate like petrol does . I like the Nismo R33 GTR pump but it's a lot of money to throw at a pump that may wear out in a few years .

The E85 pump that keeps popping up is this Walbro F90000267 which is a turbine pump and it's said to be very quiet .

At 450 lpm it's not short of flow though too much can be a problem fuel heat wise .

The other thing is that these pumps have the ability to drag high current at higher fuel pressures and this has caused problems at the tank lid terminals (R33) . Insight sells a gadget to get wiring into fuel tanks and I'll ask Scott about that one .

Is anyone here using this fuel pump and do you get fuel heating issues ?

A .

[zebra]

Buy a fuel cooler

problem solved

[scotty nm35]

I have personally installed 5 or 6 of them, and sold many more without any complaints. They are almost silent if installed correctly, more so than the old 255's, and are specifically designed for e85 use. It's a no brainer imo, as I am sure many people have told you already.

Yes the fuel gets hot after a few hours on the dyno, but how is that the fault of the pump? It's the rail that is hot, why don't you look at super cooling the rail with liquid nitrogen or something.

[Lithium]

Do you need the massive flow? Haven't used these specifically, but the likes of DW300 fuel pumps are quite fine with ethanol - quiet and all that good stuff and probably more suited to the amount of flow you need.

[scotty nm35]

DW are releasing an e85 400L pump also, but it will likely be twice the price of the Wally if the 300 is anything to go by...

[Lithium]

Really? The DW300 is comparable in price to Walbro 255lph here!

[scotty nm35]

I can get a Walbro for under $100, the DW300 is twice that through VPW.

[KiwiRS4T]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/car-parts-accessories/performance/fuel-systems/auction-627123349.htm

$159 (NZ$)

[scotty nm35]

That is a DW200, how much is the 300?

I can get a Walbro 460 e85 pump for that.

[Lithium]

Walbro in-tank is $165, on a 45% off special - so normally easily over NZD$200: http://www.nzperformance.co.nz/fuel-system/walbro-fuel-pumps.html

But even then only $55 (~30%) more than:

http://www.nzperformance.co.nz/deatschwerks-fuel-pumps/dw300-intank-fuel-pump.html

Both are NZD$300 normal price.

[scotty nm35]

Great price on the 300 there, much cheaper than my supplier, but then they never did like buying them in for me.

I sell the e85 Walbro's for $200, why would you bother with anything else at that price, especially if you plan to run ethanol at any percentage.

[Joshbigt62r]

And these pumps you sell Scotty are drop in? Or mods needed?

[Hanaldo]

Very minor mods needed.

[33GTRV]

Its ok guys. He will overthink this as well.

[discopotato03]

Really Allan ? What's your perfect solution to the ethanol pump question ...

Edited August 21, 2013 by discopotato03

[34GeeTeeTee]

Lolz

[Kinkstaah]

Very minor mods needed.

As in.. soldering.

Having had the fun of putting an 040, 044, GTR, DW301, and now the Walbro 460LPH pump, I can say they're all of equal difficulty to fit, and the DW300 and Walbro 460LPH pump are both equally quiet (silent compared the rest)

[Hanaldo]

As in.. soldering.

Having had the fun of putting an 040, 044, GTR, DW301, and now the Walbro 460LPH pump, I can say they're all of equal difficulty to fit, and the DW300 and Walbro 460LPH pump are both equally quiet (silent compared the rest)

I needed to modify my stock cradle to fit the pump in tank, as the 460LPH pump is too big to fit in the same position. But again, very minor stuff, took 5 minutes.

[discopotato03]

Greg I'd like to hear your opinions of the DW301 and the Walbro 460 Ethanol pumps .

This is a thread from NASIOC that has the performance data for the DW301 .

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2102897

It sounds like a good thing and DW seems to have gone all out SAE testing them on E100 .

I like the 13.5v table figures and if not pushing more than about 60 psi the current draw should be easy on an elec system with adequate wiring .

There is a fitting kit to suit their 240SX and this may make it virtually an easy install on a GTS25Ts bracket .

I had a look at the standard wiring in my R33 since the back seat was out and the wire size is not brilliant , it's really small at the FPCM plug .

Thanks for the tip Lith , cheers A .

Edited August 22, 2013 by discopotato03

[33GTRV]

The solution? Your questioning it. Looking for ways around it. Just search, see what the eons have done before you. E85 is so well covered these days its not funny. Drop in a big in tank, silent, easy to install, no fuss pump. Oh wait, you want to make a diamond from dogshit. Go right ahead.