Jump to content
SAU Community

Formula One 2014

tweety bird

By tweety bird,
in Motorsport Discussion & Builds

 Share

Recommended Posts

  • Replies 2.8k
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

Popular Days

Top Posters In This Topic

Popular Days

Popular Posts

Roy
Roy

Tragic isnt it

djr81
djr81

Hoping he can do for 888 what he did for Williams & McLaren.

ctjet
ctjet

daaaaaaaaaaaymn hitting that tonight aswell? joises

Posted Images

PN-Mad Grand Master

PN-Mad

Posted
Posted

What a race!

Fantastic to see Dan on the top step!

I guess massa misjudged the braking distance of the force India after they seemed to have the same rear brake issues. But yeah, Vetool should buy a lottery ticket. That would have been very nasty for him if that t-boned him

Seems Perez has got a grid penalty for moving racing line.

MatthewT85 Proficient

MatthewT85

Posted
Posted

yeah i did think perez had moved in the braking zone, but the camera angle which would have been good was the massa onboard which cuts out right when it all happens...

but also massa maybe should have moved further left too

stR33ter Experienced

stR33ter

Posted
Posted

Tried to avoid all reports as I have not see the race yet but that failed so in reading comments hard to tell if Dan won by driving a good race or if it was by good luck or bad on others. Can't wait to get home and watch it though.

89CAL Grand Master

89CAL

Posted
Posted

yeah i did think perez had moved in the braking zone, but the camera angle which would have been good was the massa onboard which cuts out right when it all happens...

but also massa maybe should have moved further left too

Its hard to say because the in car camera cut out, but it looked a bit like Massa turned into him a bit at the last minute. There was plenty of room, and it was rather dumb to get that close when such a good result was up for grabs.

Can honestly say for the first time in a while I was on the edge of my seat for the last 10 laps or so. So happy for Dan, was a great drive. Edge of your seat stuff

I wonder if this is the beginning of the end for Mercedes? Have they pushed the engines too far early in the year?

I doubt it, will probably be a minor problem that they will fix straight away, but would be good if they could have issues to open up the championship a bit again, few more different winners would make it a bit more exciting.

djr81 Grand Master

djr81

Posted
Posted

Tried to avoid all reports as I have not see the race yet but that failed so in reading comments hard to tell if Dan won by driving a good race or if it was by good luck or bad on others. Can't wait to get home and watch it though.

Well he had to make the most of three tiny little windows - the first to get past Vettel at the pit stop, the second to get past the Force it India and the last to get into the lead. So three from three and a really good win. Compare his efforts with, say Massa's, who ended up in hospital and probably cost his team near on a million bucks in repairs and lost prize money. Or Maldanado. Or Kimi.

hrd-hr30 Grand Master

hrd-hr30

Posted
Posted (edited)

lol I wouldn't call the pass to get into the lead a "tiny little window". More like a gaping big bloody hole! Rosberg's Mercedes limping along to the finish line down 160bhp less and no rear brakes...

It was a great move on Perez around the outside on the absolute limit - Seb commended him on that in the driver's room before the podium, but Perez was having rear brake issues as well.

Edited by hrd-hr30
djr81 Grand Master

djr81

Posted
Posted

My point was he didnt have long to get the three things done and any hesitation in any of them would have meant p2 not p1. Or p3 like his team mate. Not saying they were epic overtakes or anything just that he made the most of the little time he had.

Still we can always rely on you to find something to pick apart and rain on the yocal drivers parade with.

Anyway a MB motor that is 160bhp down is pobably not far from equal to a Renault given how rubbish they have been this year.

hrd-hr30 Grand Master

hrd-hr30

Posted
Posted (edited)

How is saying he made a great pass on Perez "raining on his parade"??? Deadset, you parocial Aussies are touchy!

Nor is saying that Merc had not MGU "raining on his parade". It's just true. He blew past down that straight like Rosberg was standing still.

If you want to talk about picking stuff apart and unfairly talking down drivers, that was you "Compare his efforts with, say Massa's, who ended up in hospital and probably cost his team near on a million bucks in repairs and lost prize money." when it was clearly Perez's fault.

Edited by hrd-hr30
djr81 Grand Master

djr81

Posted
Posted

No the Perez reference (Atleast the first half) isnt.

But this bit: "lol I wouldn't call the pass to get into the lead a "tiny little window"." where you have miscontrued the meaning of what I posted clearly is.

As for Massa it wasnt his fault but that is not the same thing as saying he should not have been so close such that it put him in a vulnerable position. Atleast he remembered to open his DRS on that lap so good on him. Williams needs the results, needs the points and having a car in the wall achieves nothing.

My broader point is that one of the ways you tell if a driver is good is that they make the most of the little opportunities that sometimes present themselves. Like Dan, Jensen and one or two others in Canada. Even Britney although he was probably more lucky than anything. The radio messages mid race were to push the brake bias backwards as he was losing time. It was more mischance than planning that meant this setup compensated for the MGU failure. Not using the rears up to that point probably meant he got home where Homo did not.

hrd-hr30 Grand Master

hrd-hr30

Posted
Posted (edited)

nah, I didn't misinterpret what you said. You said getting into the lead was one of three tiny little windows he had to make the most of.

Well he had to make the most of three tiny little windows - the first to get past Vettel at the pit stop, the second to get past the Force it India and the last to get into the lead.

That wasn't a tiny little window. That was a yawning chasm that even Chilton would have managed to "make the most of". All he had to do was drive past him down the straight with about 50kph advantage on his side. But if it makes you feel better to pretend that was a "tiny little window" of opportunity that Dan "made the most of" to steal victory, then go right ahead with your delusion...

RE Massa - shouldn't have been that close? Are you serious? It's hard to pass someone if you're not allowed to get close to them. You'd be singing a different tune if Perez had jinked at Dan taking them both out when he squeezed past... We wouldn't be hearing "Dan's fault for being so close to him" or " cost his team a million bucks" or "Red Bull needs the results, and the points and having a car in the wall achieves nothing", would we?

Edited by hrd-hr30
  • Like 1
hrd-hr30 Grand Master

hrd-hr30

Posted
Posted (edited)

nah, that was you turning it into a pissing competition...

Still we can always rely on you to find something to pick apart and rain on the yocal drivers parade with.

apparently pointing out that the merc was 160bhp down and had no rear brakes is nit-picking to "rain on the yocal drivers parade". More accurate to descibe it as Dan "making the most of a tiny little window to get into the lead"

deadset

Edited by hrd-hr30
dezz Grand Master

dezz

Posted
Posted

Gotta agree with Harry here. Good on Ricciardo for taking the win, he was there to capitalise and did, but the Merc was seriously down on power and waiting for it's rear brakes to fail just like the sister car... Dan's pass on Rosberg was as straight forward as they come, and if Massa and Perez didn't come together, he would have had the exact same opportunity to do it on the last lap anyway

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
 Share
Go to topic listing


  • Similar Content

  • Latest Posts

    • Borci88
      Borg Warner EFR Series Turbo's V 2.0

      By Borci88 · Posted

      Before I commit to it as I already have the wastegate off the car, would you change it to the 9psi spring instead of the 12, or whack it back on now and try your suggestion?   Edit: Actually I might just swap the spring and see what the logs say after another few pulls, as we know it's still spiking without the Mac valve in the picture so I need more data without the Mac valve trying to combat the issue.
    • Murray_Calavera
      Steps to DIY sanding car back ready for respray....

      By Murray_Calavera · Posted

      Sounds good Hmm suppose the main thing is, how much do you care about this car? The filler doesn't make for a very good water barrier lol. If there was a tiny little bit of rust forming now, that in 3 to 5 years time becomes obvious under the paint (starts to bubble up), would it bother you? 
    • Kinkstaah
      Mistakes were made, my R34 Story

      By Kinkstaah · Posted

      I already have the ability to datalog the voltage... what I can't do is correlate it to what the gauge is showing when I'm looking at the data at a later date. Or something like this. Except getting the oil to 125C+ involves me going 200+kmh at the track so you can imagine this is a little tricky unless I do something like note what the voltage is when I am at the top of 5th gear so I have a point to reference on. Drove car today. O2 still reading richer because hopefully not a leak instead of massive restriction I've introduced. Car really doesn't sound like a LS. It's quite strange. Pulled a bit of fuel out up top. This does potentially explain why my spark plugs looked like the car was running pretty over-rich. If I was tuning it to a ~12.7 which in reality was far richer than that in the past. It will be handy to have the dyno WB to compare my WB to to compare notes that's for sure. At this point I'm happy to just sit in the passenger seat and tune the thing given I've got about 7 million hours on the platform lol.
    • Chocolate Cheesecake.
      Infiniti Q60 Navigation Update

      By Chocolate Cheesecake. · Posted

      Yeah I understand you have to pay for an updated map or subscription service or something. But I can't even find a current map for Australia. My map is dated 2017, but didn't this car version still sell in Australia until 2021?   Also, just as an aside, the navigation system warns you of traffic incidences ahead.....why would they include that on a map they knew is not receiving live information. I am forever going to be warned of an incident that probably existed for 30 minutes 8 years ago.
    • R0yalT
      R34 GTR Vspec Garage Sale - All must go!

      By R0yalT · Posted

      Car has been sold and I am now selling leftover parts. Prices are non-negotiable as I will sell to my mechanic if it won't sell here. Prices are firm except for the Random Parts listed at the very bottom. All parts are genuine except for the S-Tune front bumper. Volk Racing TE37SL 19×10.5″ +12 5×114.3 pressed graphite with P-Zero 275 30 19 tyres [USED] $4,500 Wheels are in perfect condition, have been sitting in my garage for the past 6 years. Tyres still have 90% tread, but since they're now old, I would not recommend you drive hard on them. K-Sport Super Sport External Reservoir Coilovers (made to order) [NEW] $2,500 Front spring rate 14kg, Rear spring rate 7.5kg Fork Type. You can read all about it here (https://www.k-sportracing.com/product_detail.php?Key=12). I was going to start tracking the GTR, but never got around to it. Paid $3500 (after USD conversion and taxes). HKS Kansai Service Tower Bar [NEW] $500 Never fitted in the original Japanese box. R34 GTR S-Tune Fibreglass Bumper [NEW] $500 No mesh - No Box - No damage - just dusty. Nitto RB26 Clear Timing Cover [NEW] $50 Couldn't fit RB2630 due to bonnet clearance. HKS Piping Kit Special Type (BNR34) & Apexi Power Intake Air Filter Kit & Password JDM Adapter [USED] $1,000 Missing some rubber hoses and supports, but you get what you see. Nismo NE-1 Weldina Turbo Back Exhaust & Custom 3.5"straight pipe [USED] $1,000 Needs some love, but perfect for those who want to go back to OEM+. Bayside Blue Aluminium Vspec Bonnet/Hood [USED] $700 Came off my GTR. Unfortunately, the tips have been slightly ground down. It will need some repairing. Bride Low Max Super Seat Rails [USED] $350 The price is for both sides. Will post pictures when I get a chance. Random Parts [USED] - negotiable Standard rb26 cams (intake and exhaust) $10 Stock amber front indicators $10 Standard GTR bumper lower side grills $10 Stock amber side indicators $10 Nismo Sports Resetting ECU $50 Water reservoir $10 Stock airbox mouth $10 Stock fuel rail $10 Stock coilovers from R34 GTR Vspec $100 PM me which items you are interested in. I do work 9-5, so I will be responding daily at best. Best time for pick up is after 5 and before 7 on weekdays, or i can work something out on weekends. I will only accept cash or PayID. Pick up only - located Epping NSW area.
×
×
  • Create New...