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After seeing some dyno sheets of the hypergear atr43ss2 i think it'll be a bit laggy for me.

Does anyone have any opinions in terms of response on INTERNALLY GATED kinugawa td06-20g-10cm and hypergears atr43ss1/pu or their op6 highflows?

I've got so many people telling me mixed sht I just want some opinions which will be best for the street. I want full boost as EARLY as possible and want to be around the 280rwkw mark.

Keeping in mind the td06 is $500 cheaper too

Rb25det fresh forged

E85

Tomei 256 cams

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Std manifold / int gate

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The two turbos are not comparable.

280rwkw maximum response on E85 a 2IU highflow from hypergear will get you there.

Why aren't they comparable? How much bigger is the td06? 280 was on the low side, ideally I'd want a turbo capable of 300awkw but not if it'll sacrifice too much street ability

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Why aren't they comparable? How much bigger is the td06? 280 was on the low side, ideally I'd want a turbo capable of 300awkw but not if it'll sacrifice too much street ability

An SS1 is comparable to a garrett GT28 in size, a TD06 is comparable to a GT30 in size. I trust you know the difference between a 28 and a 30, its fairly major.

You also will struggle to see 300awkw from a TD06 20G, which we have covered recently in another thread. In fact, the forum arms you with more than enough information to form your own opinion on the topic within an hours reading. The Hypergear thread is not only indexed with SS1 results but ALSO TD06 based results.

Go to the hypergear thread and fill your cup.

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Do you really consider full boost by 3700 as laggy?

Its not 'laggy' but i think its a bit big for what i want. For a street car that barely sees redline and seeing as I'd be happy with 270-280kw on e85 I think it's overkill.

Could just go smaller rear housing I guess

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I've found a garrett bb turbo that's probably a little on the big side but it should do the job. Priced well and internal gate. Made 273kw at 16psi on 95 no cams. Makes 100kw at 3000rpm which seems good

Money is also a big factor seeing as this has all blown out 10 times what I expected.

Ill do a build up thread

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Std high flow makes 100kws at 3000RPMs and maxing out at 320rwkws on E85. Note this turbo hit 20psi at 3400RPMs, there isn't many turbos out there can do this without chocking the engine tho. Pump 98 fuel usually makes 40kws less. It is cheaper then what cost you to buy a TD06, after testing all this TD06 based turbos, I'm fairly sure it is far more responsive then any thing based in a 10cm turbine and makes more power internally gated.

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labeled dyno reading from 21U high flow internally gated on Stock manifold E85 (take 40kws off for P98 result)

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my tdo6 almost makes 100kws at 3000rpm ( well 90 but at least my graph is clear..)..and makes more torque at 3k than anything you just posted Stao...it is Externally gated though, internal gate tdo6s are fail

tune_zpsa6f747c5.png

Give your Hypergear a run for its money anyday :P....

its also for sale..full bolton kit....buy it ;)

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my tdo6 almost makes 100kws at 3000rpm ( well 90 but at least my graph is clear..)..and makes more torque at 3k than anything you just posted Stao...it is Externally gated though, internal gate tdo6s are fail

tune_zpsa6f747c5.png

Give your Hypergear a run for its money anyday :P....

its also for sale..full bolton kit....buy it ;)

I would if it was internal gate.

I'm still trying to get my head around the hypergear range. What's bigger, the ss1 or the op6 highflow? What is the ss1pu? What physically LOOKS bigger? Stealth is also a contributing factor as I'm in big trouble if I need to go to the pits with a 25 on e85 in my 32

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why not feed your highflowed RB25 turbo with E85?

isn't it already installed on your motor?

That turbo is being replaced. It's an rb20 turbo and it's tired. Obviously if I already had a rb25 highflow I could use, I'd use it.

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