Kinugawa Td06-20G 10Cm Vs Atr43Ss1

[s213b]

After seeing some dyno sheets of the hypergear atr43ss2 i think it'll be a bit laggy for me.

Does anyone have any opinions in terms of response on INTERNALLY GATED kinugawa td06-20g-10cm and hypergears atr43ss1/pu or their op6 highflows?

I've got so many people telling me mixed sht I just want some opinions which will be best for the street. I want full boost as EARLY as possible and want to be around the 280rwkw mark.

Keeping in mind the td06 is $500 cheaper too

Rb25det fresh forged

E85

Tomei 256 cams

Supporting mods

Std manifold / int gate

Cheers

[GTScotT]

The two turbos are not comparable.

280rwkw maximum response on E85 a 2IU highflow from hypergear will get you there.

[s213b]

The two turbos are not comparable.

280rwkw maximum response on E85 a 2IU highflow from hypergear will get you there.

Why aren't they comparable? How much bigger is the td06? 280 was on the low side, ideally I'd want a turbo capable of 300awkw but not if it'll sacrifice too much street ability

[Dose Pipe Sutututu]

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/topic/439729-reasons-why-a-highflow-wont-make-boost/

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[GTScotT]

Why aren't they comparable? How much bigger is the td06? 280 was on the low side, ideally I'd want a turbo capable of 300awkw but not if it'll sacrifice too much street ability

An SS1 is comparable to a garrett GT28 in size, a TD06 is comparable to a GT30 in size. I trust you know the difference between a 28 and a 30, its fairly major.

You also will struggle to see 300awkw from a TD06 20G, which we have covered recently in another thread. In fact, the forum arms you with more than enough information to form your own opinion on the topic within an hours reading. The Hypergear thread is not only indexed with SS1 results but ALSO TD06 based results.

Go to the hypergear thread and fill your cup.

Edited February 26, 2014 by GTScotT

[Blackkers]

yeah a 21U highflow from HG will get you 320ish on 22 psi E85

[s213b]

Edit * already answered

Edited February 26, 2014 by s213b

[s213b]

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/topic/439729-reasons-why-a-highflow-wont-make-boost/

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What's that got to do with this thread?

[Ben C34]

I suppose he is wondering what current hiflow you have now?

[s213b]

That highflow is an rb20 highflow, decided to bite the bullet and pull that turbo off and get a real one

[boostn0199]

Do you really consider full boost by 3700 as laggy?

[s213b]

Do you really consider full boost by 3700 as laggy?

Its not 'laggy' but i think its a bit big for what i want. For a street car that barely sees redline and seeing as I'd be happy with 270-280kw on e85 I think it's overkill.

Could just go smaller rear housing I guess

[boostn0199]

If thats your power goal on e85 then i would go a hi flow.

[s213b]

I've found a garrett bb turbo that's probably a little on the big side but it should do the job. Priced well and internal gate. Made 273kw at 16psi on 95 no cams. Makes 100kw at 3000rpm which seems good

Money is also a big factor seeing as this has all blown out 10 times what I expected.

Ill do a build up thread

[hypergear]

Std high flow makes 100kws at 3000RPMs and maxing out at 320rwkws on E85. Note this turbo hit 20psi at 3400RPMs, there isn't many turbos out there can do this without chocking the engine tho. Pump 98 fuel usually makes 40kws less. It is cheaper then what cost you to buy a TD06, after testing all this TD06 based turbos, I'm fairly sure it is far more responsive then any thing based in a 10cm turbine and makes more power internally gated.

Added 270214:

labeled dyno reading from 21U high flow internally gated on Stock manifold E85 (take 40kws off for P98 result)

[ARTZ]

my tdo6 almost makes 100kws at 3000rpm ( well 90 but at least my graph is clear..)..and makes more torque at 3k than anything you just posted Stao...it is Externally gated though, internal gate tdo6s are fail

Give your Hypergear a run for its money anyday ....

its also for sale..full bolton kit....buy it

[s213b]

my tdo6 almost makes 100kws at 3000rpm ( well 90 but at least my graph is clear..)..and makes more torque at 3k than anything you just posted Stao...it is Externally gated though, internal gate tdo6s are fail

Give your Hypergear a run for its money anyday ....

its also for sale..full bolton kit....buy it

I would if it was internal gate.

I'm still trying to get my head around the hypergear range. What's bigger, the ss1 or the op6 highflow? What is the ss1pu? What physically LOOKS bigger? Stealth is also a contributing factor as I'm in big trouble if I need to go to the pits with a 25 on e85 in my 32

[Dose Pipe Sutututu]

why not feed your highflowed RB25 turbo with E85?

isn't it already installed on your motor?

[scotty nm35]

E85 can only help, at least you would pass the emissions test.

[s213b]

why not feed your highflowed RB25 turbo with E85?

isn't it already installed on your motor?

That turbo is being replaced. It's an rb20 turbo and it's tired. Obviously if I already had a rb25 highflow I could use, I'd use it.