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I went to fill the liner up today with Eflex (E70) and the lady at the counter advised me that they would no longer be selling eflex end of

this month. I am disappointed as there arent any uniteds or caltex supporting this fuel in the hills district and blacktown areas.

The lady handed me a paper with the other locations Casula, Moorebank and Drummoyne but they are just too far away.

The only other options for me is United Richmond or Prairevale but they are a little far. I hope United sees this as an opportunity

to maybe supply some of this precious fuel in the hills /blacktown areas

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Think there is a caltex on the highway at giraween that sells it just past fox hills golf club if your heading to the city. But that could be the one your talking about. Its unfortunate.

Maybe if we submit an online petition to United they might see a good business case

to add this fuel to one of their outlets in Sydney West and or NorthWest areas.

This forum has a huge amount of members and if a moderator is looking at this

if we could start a petition. I am sure many SAU members use eflex or e85 and many

are considering to convert to it. Now is the time we need to band together and ask

United that plenty of SAU members will be customers supporting their fuel.

Yeah unfortunately I read an article from Caltex saying they're phasing out E-flex all together. They've already done so in SA but I didn't see any timelines for the other states.

Such a disappointment

Think there is a caltex on the highway at giraween that sells it just past fox hills golf club if your heading to the city. But that could be the one your talking about. Its unfortunate.

That's the same place, Luke - Girraween and Pendle Hill are side by side, so people often mix them up.

There is a United on Fitzwilliam Road in Old Toongabbie that I use regularly, but they've never supplied E-flex. I was considering going E-flex on my car but seeing as it's only available at that Caltex (or was), I never bothered.

eflex is such an inferior fuel to united e85, but i guess its better than running 98 still.

only other option is to buy those 205l drums and just fill up and keep in shed if you drive your car alot, you dont want it sitting around for a long time due to the nature of the fuel.

eflex is such an inferior fuel to united e85

It would want to be considering the 20+ cents a litre price difference at the moment. E85 is more expensive than E10 at united haha price gouging or what?

It isn't just E85 that's fishy at the Servo up the hill from Emu Plains. Even their pump 98 is suss also I'm afraid.

Agreed; fuel quality (and customer service) has dropped off markedly since new ownership.

Yeah I wouldn't call it inferior. United has been quite shit for a while now in regards to varying ethanol content and clogging fuel filters etc

I have tested both E-Flex and E85 from United.

E-Flex varys between 65-70 Ethanol Content. United @ Prariewood and Minto i get consistant E82-84 and now they finally have the 107 Octane Race Blend which i am currently just filling for the first time now. Price has always been less than E10. Though i do agree United is price gouging, it should be ALOT cheaper.

There are a few things to consider at the pump when you fill up. You can get contamination at ANY servo:

1. How old is the servo?

2. When was the last time the tanks were changed in the ground? How old are the tanks in the ground?

3. How busy is the servo? How long do you think the fuel has been sitting there for?

Last time i was at Minto United i could see the E85 counter was higher than the E10 AND the E98 on the same pump station. That means a good overturn of E85. At Prariewood United, most of the time i go there i have to wait in line to fill up. They only have the 1 pump (Minto has 2) and due to the high concentration of Performance Cars in the Western Sydney area, you can bet it gets a good turnover as well.

All E85 has the properties to f**k your fuel filters / clog your injectors etc. you need to make sure you take a few steps:

1. run E85 compatible injectors which wont corrode

2. run a tank of 98 every now and then to clean out the fuel system and avoid gummy buildup in your fuel system

3. service your fuel pump filters regularly (i run an external inline fuel filter also to make it easier to service)

4. don't let E85 sit in your tank for more than 2 weeks - it makes the fuel go off. make sure you drive the car at least every two weeks, or if the car is going to sit for a long time fill back up with 98.

Easiest thing to do is run a flex fuel kit / tune. That way you can fill up 98 or E85 on the fly without having to run heaps of maps etc. Also helps to have an Ethanol content analyzer in the car (either via ECU or flex fuel kit with a Zeitronix unit)

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If your fuel goes bad after 2 weeks get a new fuel tank. It's a sealed unit, it can last a few months.

I've been running this stuff for 3 years and do have a flex tune, sensor etc.

Servos ranging from Pendle Hill, casula and Richmond.

Car just finished doing 400kms in 12 months of sitting there. It's just a fuel ur not filling the car with water.

Also the difference between e60 to e85 is marginal at best :)

I run a blend of just over 50% ethanol which keeps fuel more stable has 95% of the detonation resistance properties of e85 and keeps the valve areas better lubricated. And not to mention starts perfectly in winter.

Heres an online calculator i use. Scroll to bottom of page and use the last calculator. It reads in gallons ignore that. Type in how many litres of e85 at approx 82% dial 98 for the pump fuel add your litres and zero out the ethanol in the pump fuel section and you have the blend result http://www.intercepteft.com/calc.html

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