Help! Enkei Rpf1 On R33 Skyline

[georgekappa]

Hey guys, just bought some ENKEI RPF1 18x9.5 +38 all around to find they don't fit on the front but fit perfect on the back.

The back of the wheel is scraping against the front brake calipers stopping the wheel from rotating.

I tried 8mm spacers, still wasn't enough. Tried 20mm bolt on spacers and that poked WAY too much it looked ridiculous. No idea what to do at this point. I really don't want to sell them as it will be such a hassle to get new ones etc.

any suggestions?

[Hadouken]

You screwed the pooch.

You have 3 options.

Sell wheels

Get 15mm (or whatever) spacers then probably roll and pump guards

Run bottle caps for brakes

[okooko]

sell them and cut your losses and buy something more suitable.

great wheels though, i've got a set of those in +15.

[dyl33]

I would sell the wheels, as much as that sucks for you. You are better off buying the right sized wheels that fit. Then to use spacers or some other dodgy way round it and potentially jeopardise yours or another road users saftey.

[Hadouken]

I'm still yet to see a wheel fly off due to 10mm spacer

[georgekappa]

Yeah up for sale, damn. Gotta start looking for those wheels in +15 offset now

[Hadouken]

They won't fit on a gtst.

When you put a 20mm spacer on that would have made the wheels a +18. Now imagine another 3mm out from there.

You need 8" upfront.

[GTSBoy]

But but but but.....I'm trying to work out how they can be rubbing the back of the spokes on the caliper faces. This is not a reasonable situation.

Fact 1. RPF1s (17x8 +35 or 38 or whatever it is) fit on my R32 against R33 calipers (not that it should matter much, but R33 calipers will obviously sit radially a little further away from the axis than R32 ones would).

Fact 2. I've never sen other RPF1s not fit a Skyline under similar circumstances.

Fact 3. RPF1s should all have about the same thickness of material in the hub section. This is the material thickness that determines whether the wheel will clear the caliper face.

Observation 1. The wheel in the OP's photo appears to have a LOT thinner hub section than any other RPF1 I have ever seen. I would guess that some retard has machined a f**ktonne of material off the hub section.

If all the above is true, run away. Do not sell them (because that would be wrong). Do not try to use them with spacers, because that would be stupid if they have been molested.

[Jordy32]

GTSboy is right, i can confirm that my RPF01's which are a +22 offset have much more material around the central up area, they look WAY too thin, mine have a good few CM more material there

Strange

[iruvyouskyrine]

I'll buy them cheap if what is being said is correct.

[Ben C34]

Interesting, measure and figure out the offset if you get a chance

[Jordy32]

Got a pic of the face that bolts against the hub? would be interesting to see the difference between mine and yours?

Also the enkei stickers and paint don't look right but could just be me

[Hadouken]

Fenkei stickers

[georgekappa]

Had to sell them had no other options, sorry only saw all these comments now. Dont have any other pics but yeah was a very strange situation.

Like i said specs were 18x9.5 +38 all around

[Hadouken]

You already sold them?

[Ben C34]

Man. You could earn good money by helping people sell stuff instantly.

[georgekappa]

Yeah put them up last night sold them this morning for $1800 which is roughly what i paid.. Time to look for a new set of the same wheels..

So im guessing i need a +15 to +25 offset and that should fit perfect?

What forum section should i post a WTB thread in for these?

[Hadouken]

Did you not read my post concerning offset? Or am I just talking to the wall?

I wouldn't pay 1800.

[R31 drift pig]

They would have gone on with a bit of work. $1700 -$1800 is the going rate new here in aus. I bought mine in from the us for under $1500 delivered, but the dollar was better. And mine are the widest RPF1's available.

I have 18x9.5+15 WITH a 25mm spacer up front, and 18x10.5 +15 rear, now has a 35mm rear spacer. with 25mm front and 35mm rear fenders. But ran it as a street car like that for a couple of years.

They won't fit on a gtst.

When you put a 20mm spacer on that would have made the wheels a +18. Now imagine another 3mm out from there.

You need 8" upfront.

they WILL fit on a GTST. You just need to mod the guards. I ran rolled flared OEM Metal for a while, and then when to origin +25mm FRP Fenders. Your wheel alignment also plays a major part in it. Also tyre sizing.

But but but but.....I'm trying to work out how they can be rubbing the back of the spokes on the caliper faces. This is not a reasonable situation.

Fact 1. RPF1s (17x8 +35 or 38 or whatever it is) fit on my R32 against R33 calipers (not that it should matter much, but R33 calipers will obviously sit radially a little further away from the axis than R32 ones would).

Fact 2. I've never sen other RPF1s not fit a Skyline under similar circumstances.

Fact 3. RPF1s should all have about the same thickness of material in the hub section. This is the material thickness that determines whether the wheel will clear the caliper face.

Observation 1. The wheel in the OP's photo appears to have a LOT thinner hub section than any other RPF1 I have ever seen. I would guess that some retard has machined a f**ktonne of material off the hub section.

If all the above is true, run away. Do not sell them (because that would be wrong). Do not try to use them with spacers, because that would be stupid if they have been molested.

Fact 3 is incorrect. The spokes taper differently as they get wider. Many brands of wheels do this. Commonly referred to as a "FACE" Offset is a part of the equation, but not all of it. My 9.5's and 10.5's taper differently.

Had to sell them had no other options, sorry only saw all these comments now. Dont have any other pics but yeah was a very strange situation.

Like i said specs were 18x9.5 +38 all around

I Previously ran Enkei ABC Exclusive wheels in 18x9.5 +35 and 18x10.5 +35.

I actually still have them. They run a more concave face, therefore allowing more calliper clearance.

There are plenty of people running wider and lower offset wheels than what you're suggesting.

You really need to consider all of the following, not just a width and offset and thats it.

- Width

- Offset

- Wheel Face tyre - some offer more or less room on the face for calliper clearance. Enkeis are generally pretty good with clearance,

- Tyre Size

- Alignment

- Ride Height

- Spring Rates

TBH, you could have just gone with a 10mm longer wheel stud and a 10mm slip on, or a 15mm bolt on, or a 20 and more camber, for every degree of negative camber you run, the too of the wheel moves in 5mm (Generally)

Edited September 25, 2015 by R31 drift pig

[Hadouken]

Anything will fit with guard work. I thought that statement was to obvious to recite.