HELP!!! turbo question

[Restless 33]

hey guys...i finally found a sik R33 GTS-T only problem is some d!ck talked my dad into thinking the car is way to powerful for a P plater...(probably rite) anyway my dad said it's all cool for me to buy it..BUT i have to make the turbo not work AT ALL... :S anyway i was just wondering how do i do this....and how much will it cost...and will i be able to just turn the tubo back on lata. what other things will this effect...eg fuel going into the engine etc.. thanks for ur help guys. need quick reply though

[MR R33]

buy a non turbo

[SS8_Gohan]

hmmm, i don't know a lot bout engines, but you may be able to turn the boost down quite low? Can also install more restrictive air intakes. These would reduce the power BUT, it doesn't really matter in regards to Power to Weight/Ratio rule as the rule goes off "FACTORY FIGURES" - Meaning no matter what you do, a turbo R33 coupe is always going to be over the power to weight. But you could get a non-turbo R33 and THEN turbo that, and you'd be fine, because the factory figures for a non-turbo are ok for power to weight. Bit silly isn't it?

cheers.

[Restless 33]

if u get a machanic certificate saying it's been de-tuned then they accept that. but i want to be able to turn the turbo back on afta about a year so i don't wanna buy a non turbo and then sell then buy another GTS-T. my dad just doesn't want me to get any boost. thinks i'll kick the back out on a corner to easily

[paulr33]

he is probably right too

[Restless 33]

who is probably rite???

[Pekatu]

Probably not the answer you want to hear, but.... it is probably not worth your while getting a GTSt, you should get something else for just a year then get the turbo!

just my 5c!

[seraphyn_r33]

buying a non turbo then changing it to a turbo is too expensive. It will also cost you money if you buy a gts-t and then spend the time f**king around with it detuning it. The best solution would probably be

a)just to buy a shitbox for this year, and then buy a gts-t next year.

b)If you already have a car, dont buy anything. just hold off your purchase until your allowed to be able to run full boost.

[dr30man]

buying a non turbo then changing it to a turbo is too expensive. It will also cost you money if you buy a gts-t and then spend the time f**king around with it detuning it. The best solution would probably be  

a)just to buy a shitbox for this year, and then buy a gts-t next year.  

b)If you already have a car, dont buy anything. just hold off your purchase until your allowed to be able to run full boost.

Should of done that, waited myself, but didnt, cost me upwords of 8G's to convert to turbo with minor mods.

As far as i know just turn boost to 0 with a boost controller and the turbo will never spool up.

If thats any help

[GunMetalR33]

You cant boost lower than the waist gate is set to open at (thats what I though?). So you are going to have to adjust the waist gate actuator arm so that the gate is always open. It should not cost too much...

[sewid]

I dont think you can turn the boost to 0 but you can modify the stock boost solenoid to never open so it will maintain 5psi max boost.

Just unplug the solenoid from the power and you will have 5psi max.

[ADZO]

disconnect the waistgate actuator then wire the gate open or pull hose off boost guage

[R31Nismoid]

1) You cant turn off a turbo

2) You cant de-tune it and get it "certified" by vic-rods standards

Do yourself a favour, guy a shitbox and drive it around for 2-3 years first.

If you smash it it dont matter, insurance is cheap and affordable too

There is a good place in Thomastown on Mahoneys rd - 308 i think the number was...

Me and dj_lethal just brought some daily driver bombs and cost us like $1700 each and there are in A1 condition mechanically.

Get a bomb

[seraphyn_r33]

r31 nismoid is right. it would be a lot easier and cheaper just to buy a shitbox until you are allowed to get a gts-t and be able to run decent boost levels. i personally dont see a point in buying a r33 gtst then spending the time and money buggerising round with it to basically disable the turbo so to speak. just my opinion anyway

[Restless 33]

i thought it was real easy to stop the turbo all u do is open the wastegate yeah and remove the actuator and that's it...then i can just put it bak on after bout a year of driving by myself..it's just so i don't crash it that easily...only 3rd party insurance :S i don't wanna waste time gettin another car then selling and then gettin a GTS-T

[Kaido_RR]

hey guys...i finally found a sik R33 GTS-T only problem is some d!ck talked my dad into thinking the car is way to powerful for a P plater...(probably rite) anyway my dad said it's all cool for me to buy it..BUT i have to make the turbo not work AT ALL... :S        anyway i was just wondering how do i do this....and how much will it cost...and will i be able to just turn the tubo back on lata. what other things will this effect...eg fuel going into the engine etc.. thanks for ur help guys. need quick reply though

aahahahaa

1. Turbo can only run Factory Boost Lvl which is 0.4bar, even with a ebc it can not be turn down lower than that (ps i have try)

2. P's + turbo = bad news,

Its got nothing to do with u being young or anything like that trust me, i own an r33 gts-t and im only 17, but i can tell u all the money i make goes into the car or goes towards saving for something. Things like clutch, shocks, tyres can go at any time and cost alot to replace.

Also fuel and insurance isnt cheap, yeah go 3rd party, i did but when u hit someone see how long it takes u to just get enough money to fix your car or even pay the excess (mine is around $1000)

[Guest Slide]

buy a dual stage boost controller set 1st setting to really low for when your dad knows

then set the 2nd stage to what ever you want.

what dad doesnt know wont hurt him.

just dont boost it into a Gutter,tree,house,car etc as this would give it away.

turbod cars are meant to utilise the extra air imput and extraction from the turbo i have turned mine down for a day to see what happened to about 2psi and it spikes to 7psi anyway.

just retard the effects of the turbo by turning the angle sensor you will feel more engine and less turbo but it will still be there wouldnt recommend for long time though and should be properly detuned by specialist Skyline Doctor

[Guest Slide]

wouldnt disconnecting the wastegate actuator confuse the computer into beleiving it is runin lotsa boost or no boost?

[PTR33]

This thread would be the WORST I have ever seen for people who know fu(k all giving technical advice.

Firstly. A Boost controller can not turn your boost down lower than the pressure set by the spring in the wastegate actuator. In the case of a R33, 5 PSI.

Secondly. Even with the wastegate wired open the turbo will eventually spool up to some extent. doubt it would develop much boost until near redline.

Thirdly. Take the advice of people who have been there before... BUY A SH!TBOX for a year.

If it is your first car you WILL crash it or damage it in some other way trust me. If you want to stay with a sporty import Nissan, get a Silvia Q (non turbo). They are cheap as dirt for what they are.

Not that you will probably listen. I know I wouldn't have when I was your age. :-)

[Guest Slide]

1: what i posted was a suggestion not technical advise

2:I were questioning a post by ADZO about the wastegate

here is his thought

disconnect the waistgate actuator then wire the gate open or pull hose off boost guage

here is my question

wouldnt disconnecting the wastegate actuator confuse the computer into beleiving it is runin lotsa boost or no boost?

if you put some thought into my post it says!

turbod cars are meant to utilise the extra air imput and extraction from the turbo i have turned mine down for a day to see what happened to about 2psi and it spikes to 7psi anyway.

3: it is not me wanting to buy 1

i already have 1

consentrate or that cholesterol will catch upto you really fast

4 just because you older it doesnt mean you know more it just means you have made more mistakes to learn from.

Why be a bully PTR33 just trying to help