Alarm/immobiliser recomendations for an R33

[PotatoCake]

Hey everyone, am looking at getting an R33 gtr shortly so am doing some prep work before hand. I know back in the day most insurers required an alarm with immobiliser installed, and 'viper' seemed to be the go to brand. 

Any recommendations on whats a good brand/product to use in 2024?

[GTSBoy]

Anything with black wires, rolling codes and dual immobilisation will do.

Any such thing is only going to be an annoyance to someone who really wants to take the car. They will take it at gunpoint, or lift the keys from inside the house, or skulldrag it onto a flatbed if they really want it and don't want to deal with the alarm needing to be silenced and sidestepped before they can drive it away.

I put a really loud piezo screamer in under the dashboard, exactly where you would need to be trying to work on the wiring, just to cause as much trouble as I could.

Beyond that, these days you're probably best off finding a way to immobilise it yourself, manually, if and when you have to leave it somewhere. Hidden switches, ECU keypads used for code entry, etc etc, are all reasonable ideas.

[soviet_merlin]

When I checked the insurance premium with and without immobiliser it made pretty much no difference. As in a couple dollars. With Enthusiast. Though also for a Stagea at probably a fifth of the value.

Makes me think that at least the insurance thinks it makes no difference to whether the car gets stolen or not.

[PotatoCake]

Good tip about the black wiring and kill switch, i didnt consider that!

[Dose Pipe Sutututu]

A modern aftermarket ECU allows an immobiliser to be set up, albeit it's not specifically labelled as that, if you know what you're doing and add in enough conditions it acts as one.

[PotatoCake]

If im aiming to keep the car pretty stock, just an intake & exhaust at most, would the aftermarket ecu be required? I see all the things the mighty car mods guys do with their haltech units, but their also doing quite a few mods at the same time...

[GTSBoy]

41 minutes ago, PotatoCake said:

would the aftermarket ecu be required?

There is no situation - totally stock / intake and exhaust / screaming full house monster - that is not improved by the ability to tune out the horribleness that is Nissan's stock R&R. So, yes, Nistune at a minimum. But if you're going to go to that effort on something that is going to cost many tens of thousands of $$, you might as well drop a couple more grand on an ECU.

[PotatoCake]

2 hours ago, GTSBoy said:

There is no situation - totally stock / intake and exhaust / screaming full house monster - that is not improved by the ability to tune out the horribleness that is Nissan's stock R&R. So, yes, Nistune at a minimum. But if you're going to go to that effort on something that is going to cost many tens of thousands of $$, you might as well drop a couple more grand on an ECU.

Thanks, i see that Racepace motorsport is 10 minutes away from me, from my googling they look to be well respected in the gtr scene, guess that will be my first stop, im assuming they can help with basic ecu tuning. 

[Murray_Calavera]

4 hours ago, PotatoCake said:

just an intake & exhaust at most

It's a slippery slope... this is only the beginning lol

[Dose Pipe Sutututu]

Put $60k aside lol

[soviet_merlin]

5 hours ago, Dose Pipe Sutututu said:

A modern aftermarket ECU allows an immobiliser to be set up, albeit it's not specifically labelled as that, if you know what you're doing and add in enough conditions it acts as one.

Can it be enabled/disabled permanently through the Haltech keypad? As in there is disarming just to be able to start the car, but also disabling the immobiliser to leave it at a workshop for example.

[Dose Pipe Sutututu]

7 minutes ago, soviet_merlin said:

Can it be enabled/disabled permanently through the Haltech keypad? As in there is disarming just to be able to start the car, but also disabling the immobiliser to leave it at a workshop for example.

The first part yes, the latter not really.

If you do leave it at a shop, you'll need to make the changes via NSP.

Happy to disclose how it's set up in private 😎

[PotatoCake]

12 hours ago, Murray_Calavera said:

It's a slippery slope... this is only the beginning lol

I grew up with everyone having jdm cars, had a couple of tt mk4 supras myself, so i know all too well how easily costs can add up! Only thing different this time around is i have a mortgage and other grown up stuff to pay for, so (hopefully) that will help limit spending on crazy mods for the car hah.

[Dose Pipe Sutututu]

7 minutes ago, PotatoCake said:

i have a mortgage and other grown up stuff to pay for, so (hopefully) that will help limit spending on crazy mods for the car hah.

If you need to refinance your mortgage and reset the loan terms back to 30 years and cash out on your equity for "investment" purposes *cough* car parts, I can help 😊

[PotatoCake]

14 minutes ago, Dose Pipe Sutututu said:

If you need to refinance your mortgage and reset the loan terms back to 30 years and cash out on your equity for "investment" purposes *cough* car parts, I can help 😊

Hah dont worry, my adult brain has this conversation every single day. Dont waste your money, invest more of it into shares, pay down the mortgage. Then the bedtime insta doom scrolling begins and after being bombarded with gtr's my mind is set: im definitely getting one!

I have the current model mx5 as the weekender, but i just miss my boost and literally like your username, the sututu's that come with it. I remember with my 2nd supra, as it had twins and vvti, they used to spool real early, like 1,500rpm so you could just be a spooly boy all day long. Some people say they get over it after a while, not me tho. 

[Dose Pipe Sutututu]

We are literally just kids stuck in an adult's body with bills and mortgages to pay 🥲

[R3N3]

17 hours ago, Dose Pipe Sutututu said:

The first part yes, the latter not really.

If you do leave it at a shop, you'll need to make the changes via NSP.

Happy to disclose how it's set up in private 😎

Yes please I’d also like to know

[PotatoCake]

2 hours ago, Dose Pipe Sutututu said:

We are literally just kids stuck in an adult's body with bills and mortgages to pay 🥲

Hah im glad im not the only one who feels this way!

On a side note as im new to these forums, i can see there is a model specific section but it seems to lump all the various series into one large section. Is there any way to see only r33 post? I cant seem to find any advanced search options either. Makes finding information difficult...

[Dose Pipe Sutututu]

50 minutes ago, R3N3 said:

Yes please I’d also like to know

I'll send you screen shots tomorrow when I'm on the laptop 😊

[Dose Pipe Sutututu]

19 minutes ago, PotatoCake said:

 

On a side note as im new to these forums, i can see there is a model specific section but it seems to lump all the various series into one large section. Is there any way to see only r33 post? I cant seem to find any advanced search options either. Makes finding information difficult...

Not really, I think of you search stuff you'll most likely end up on @R3N3's build thread or mine lol.

Better off using Google to search SAU, the built in forum search isn't as sophisticated as Google's search.