The horseshoe at wakefield

[Ceffo]

Hey guys,

Wats up with that horseshoe at wakefield. It says u should be at 80 setting up for that horseshoe so that means u should be taking that HS at 80 km/h?..

Im sitting on 3rd gear at this point.

Ive run that track twice now and also 6 20min sessions each. And the highest ive tacken that corner is at 65km/h The thing is that is my slowest part of the track and is the main problem point in attaining a good time.

BTW im running coilovers and 17x9.5 inch pirellis.

Any suggestions?.

[Craved]

i cant believe you have time to look at it!

i really dont get much time to look at the tacho or speedo on that corner so i cant really comment on the speed through there!

what times are you getting around there? what does the car do on that corner ie understeer early/midcorner/exit or oversteer?

where do you turn in on that corner? i try to stay right out and turn in at the access road coming in there on your right!

[Roy]

:confused: I have no idea what to suggest, other then you may be screwing up the corner entry to the keyhole by coming out of the quick left hander preceding it all wrong.

I have no idea how quick i go thru there other then i have good few revs in 3rd, so perhaps dont take the left hander so quick/wide which will leave you on the right side and speed for the two right handers that follow.

Oh and dont forget the curbs and even a few inches of dirt either side constitute the track so use all of it:)

[B-Man]

Too busy looking at the speedo

[Ceffo]

Ive set it up alroght for the turn preceeding it. I have quick glances on the speedometer as im turning out of the wide corner. My times are 1:17 and so forth unoficialy.

I get plenty of oversteer. Whilst trying to cut back thru the middle apex and swinging the back out. To connect to the next racing line. Hmmm.

My mate in his FWD type r can hammer thru it at 70km/h.

[Duncan]

somewhere between 70 and 90 depending on tyre and suspensions sounds about right to me.

You should head down to the SAU trackday on 1 November and have someone head out with you....

[Craved]

hmm just remember that a FWD car should be able to have a better entry speed than most RWD cars, so it really depends on when the 2 of you are looking at the speedo!

1:17 isnt bad at all, especially after only 2 times down there! will take some time out there and it is a good suggestion by Duncan to get out there with the club and see how others are taking that corner!

might have to head down there in november, got some good tyres for the car now, im looking to break into the 1:14's next time down there.... see how we go

[Ceffo]

man.. i think im gonna be recovering from the one past (financially) for the next 3 months at least. Rotors, brakes and rear new tryes need replacing and also new clucth.. :burnout:

Still will also hope to get into the 1:14's as well soon. But why does it always seem to be so much harder to get that 1 sec off?.. LOL

[Craved]

yeah true, only got 8/10 sec to take off, but i know how you feel.. i go through brakes every time i go down there! i've had to drive back with no front brakes twice... using the HB to slow down and gears ... not fun!!!

i've always run cheap sime tyres - they last forever.. not much grip though

[Ceffo]

only things im missing now is running slicks to decrease the time. But fcuk i wanna see wat i could do with street tyres. Yeah on the way back all the boyz had to use the HB b/c the brakes were all gonseskiiiii... Mies was all the way to the bottom to stop.. LOL

Hey do u guys know of this old guys there that owns a amg merc.. that did like 1:12's. The things had slicks on and looked stock as. He was driving that 100k + car around like it was on rails.. Overtaking everybody. My mates says he is there often. Who the **** drive a merc amg around like that?.. LOL

[XrSiSt]

AMG = running semi slicks.. not slicks.

T.. just power oversteer like what i did.. oh.. and we need better tyres... crap road tyres

don't cut it.

[dacow]

I think that AMG dood came to the Circuit Club organised Wakefield on Oct 4th too

[someonestolecc]

AMG and M's are should be thrashed on the track. It's always good to see that stuff. Like walking through back through the city after work one day saw a PHAT GT3 parked with all towing rings on it and stuff. Thought he was a poser but looked closer the whole insides were ripped out, had buckets, harness and the CAMS required blue triangle at the battery sticker and such.

That put a smile on my face.

Ceffo you have to take me to WSID soon when I get my steering and clutch cylinder problems fixed.

[Ceffo]

Ceffo you have to take me to WSID soon when I get my steering and clutch cylinder problems fixed.

hahaha u nut - When u go to WSID thats where the problems start. Blown gboxes, turbos going, clucth frying, tyres fcuked. :wassup:

Still why drive a performance car when u cant see how much fun having in it.

[someonestolecc]

I just gotta get me some 17"s or something.

[GTR-80Y]

Ceffo bro! I think the problem was all the dirt i left on the track from my first lap off! hahaha sorry man. Get Duncan to show u how its done, the official mr schumacher!

[Craved]

I just gotta get me some 17"s or something.

hey, what size tyres are you running now....

i have worked out with a couple of saloon cars to get their 2nd hand race tyres pretty sheap per set -- they are 16" 225's

we could work something i reckon!

[rmc02]

Guys just to let you know I run a Formula Ford with a Data Logger. My speed around that corner is in the high 70's. I run 64 - 65 sec laps.

[Craved]

Ryan - what number are you in the FF? you running state series

Sorry to get off track!

[Duncan]

Guys just to let you know I run a Formula Ford with a Data Logger.  My speed around that corner is in the high 70's.  I run 64 - 65 sec laps.

haha that blows my 70-90 theory lol! I guess I'm always looking when I've left the corner not when I'm in in.

What speed for turn 10? and turn 2? this is fun