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surfstagea
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hey guys, heres a dyno chart from the other day. this is for a fairly stock example, with standard cooler / exhaust, and 10 psi boost. cheers!

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scotty nm35 Grand Master

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lol, I agree, in an auto it is usually better to go for a larger turbo though as the revs are nearly always into the boost area. If you go too big, just open the converter a bit. They need to be matched, just like a turbo to the capacity of an engine. You will loose a little power running off the stall,(20-30kw or so) and a little less fuel efficient, but who cares. :)

If I can organise a decent lockup clutch I will perhaps have it unlocked in 1st and lock it up into 2nd and leave it locked through the rest of the gears. It shifts fine with the clutch locked.

wolverine Grand Master

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im sorry ive read what you said about 10 times and fail to understand what your talking about

If you are referring to my posts, unfortunately scotty's dyno chart pic didn't come with the relevant quote but it is worth going back and having a look at how much more average power the stocker made under 6000rpm. Assuming the turbo has reasonable lifespan and doesn't shit itself that looks a pretty outstanding result for everyday use.

lol, I agree, in an auto it is usually better to go for a larger turbo though as the revs are nearly always into the boost area. If you go too big, just open the converter a bit. They need to be matched, just like a turbo to the capacity of an engine. You will loose a little power running off the stall,(20-30kw or so) and a little less fuel efficient, but who cares. :)

If I can organise a decent lockup clutch I will perhaps have it unlocked in 1st and lock it up into 2nd and leave it locked through the rest of the gears. It shifts fine with the clutch locked.

As usual a dyno doesn't really tell you how it will feel on the road as there are other variables. The RB25 powered stageas (manuals) are a much better drive with 400-450 hp turbos compared to going up to 500-550hp turbos due to their weight for day to day driving IMO. An R33 lugging less weight around isn't hampered anywhere near as much.

Autos change the game, if you make enough power who cares if you lose a bit to the converter.

scotty nm35 Grand Master

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My thoughts exactly. And I feel our barges need a fair bit of poke just to match the lighter skylines, WRX, evo.

I drove a stock Liberty STI today, it seemed to be much quicker than mine. I know it wasnt but it seemed to push me into the seat a lot more than mine ever did at 300. The extra weight in mine somehow aids traction too. It all seems very backward. I wasn't very impressed with the handling and ride quality though, mine feels much more refined. Glad I went the BC's.

Dragon92 Enthusiast

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Got invited to go to a FordLaser.com Dyno Day, just for the hell of it i went :P

For a Stock Engine, only got a 3" Turbo back system

(dunno how to put an image in yet, so theres the Link to a image of the Report)

http://i1097.photobucket.com/albums/g348/RS4VStagea/001.jpg

Im impressed, just got to start some upgrades now :)

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Got invited to go to a FordLaser.com Dyno Day, just for the hell of it i went :P

For a Stock Engine, only got a 3" Turbo back system

(dunno how to put an image in yet, so theres the Link to a image of the Report)

http://i1097.photobu...VStagea/001.jpg

Im impressed, just got to start some upgrades now :)

nice thumbsup.gif but are you sure you don't have a chipped ecu or something controlling fuel. not that there is anything wrong with the afr's, in fact they are probably too good under load for the stock ecu, you only just hit 11.5-11.4 under full load, every RB engine i've seen still running the stock ecu goes well into the 10's and some times even lower.

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nice thumbsup.gif but are you sure you don't have a chipped ecu or something controlling fuel. not that there is anything wrong with the afr's, in fact they are probably too good under load for the stock ecu, you only just hit 11.5-11.4 under full load, every RB engine i've seen still running the stock ecu goes well into the 10's and some times even lower.

Cheers, As far as i know its all Stock. only the 3" Turbo back i did, How can i find out if i got a chipped ECU?

Global_Warmer Proficient

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Picked my Stagea up from Blacktrack Performance at Thornton today and I am very happy with the results!!

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Car is running 19PSI of boost to make 415BHP.

I cant beleive how bloody quick it is. I gotta get this beast on a race track ASAP!!

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Cheers, As far as i know its all Stock. only the 3" Turbo back i did, How can i find out if i got a chipped ECU?

Have a look at the outside (its in the panel to the left of the passenger's feet) - it may have a sticker on the outside (Mines, Tomei). If not it gets harder - open it up to see if it has been modified - probably need a stocker or photo of one to compare it with. Or of youhave an ecutalk cable or similar you might be able to get the information through the consult port.

Or look at the wires going into the ecu plug to see if any piggybacks have been connected.

Jetwreck Grand Master

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Picked my Stagea up from Blacktrack Performance at Thornton today and I am very happy with the results!!

IMG_0002.jpg

Car is running 19PSI of boost to make 415BHP.

I cant beleive how bloody quick it is. I gotta get this beast on a race track ASAP!!

Nice figures...300AWKW's is a good number man....congrat's....wish I had a manual....fun+....new I should have gone down the 260rs road!!!:(

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Nice figures...300AWKW's is a good number man....congrat's....wish I had a manual....fun+....new I should have gone down the 260rs road!!!:(

Yeah, 260RS's are a good thing a good proven platform to begin with (R33 GTR). Its just a shame its a 12 year old car. I really like that style of car (260RS), but it would be nice if it was a fair bit newer. I have NEVER seen one of the newer Stagea's before.

I am VERY happy with the horse power. Its bloody fast! I need to meet some of you guys one day. Let me know if you guys are up for a Putty road drive one day and i will come down to Windsor and cruise back up with ya's. Mid week is also good for me if any of you are shift workers (plus there is no Police during the week).

wolverine Grand Master

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The boost is a little lazy to my eye so I reckon there is a chance that a little more pre-load on the actuators might bring it on a little earlier. What boost control are you using?

Mmm Putty drive. A shame the half way house burnt down and they frigged around with the speed limits.

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The boost is a little lazy to my eye so I reckon there is a chance that a little more pre-load on the actuators might bring it on a little earlier. What boost control are you using?

Mmm Putty drive. A shame the half way house burnt down and they frigged around with the speed limits.

I am using a Turbosmart e-boost2. Left all the tuning up to Blacktrack performance so I dont really know exactely what they did to the car.

Halfwayhouse is open again. I am goin down to Kurrajong on Friday so will check for sure. Yeah, they stuffed some of the speed limits. But I did the Putty up to three times in a week in my 99 SSS pulsar when I got my new job in the Mines before my missus moved up and I have rarely seen a cop on it. they only give it a floggin on sundays when all the city boys on their Yamaha R1's wrap emselves around trees...

wolverine Grand Master

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Ok, last time I checked the half way house was still shut....might have been October last year.

We used to make a Sunday morning drive up there then home by 11 or so. A buck ten the max speed which means the R1's hammer past you but still a fun drive and pleasant morning.

I would have a good look at the actuators/boost control next time you have it near a dyno. There might be a bit more life mid range to be had there. Peak won't change but who cares eh.

Daleo Grand Master

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I might be up for a weekday Putty run :banana: used to do it regularly on my Bike before the demise of the Halfway House. Mondays & Fridays are my best days.

I've got a GSXR1000; no stupid R1 here...:whistling:

Dragon92 Enthusiast

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Have a look at the outside (its in the panel to the left of the passenger's feet) - it may have a sticker on the outside (Mines, Tomei). If not it gets harder - open it up to see if it has been modified - probably need a stocker or photo of one to compare it with. Or of youhave an ecutalk cable or similar you might be able to get the information through the consult port.

Or look at the wires going into the ecu plug to see if any piggybacks have been connected.

Nope, Stock as a rock!! :down:

I got excited hoping something was there. but there aint!

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Nope, Stock as a rock!! :down:

I got excited hoping something was there. but there aint!

Have you got a 260RS? ^^^. Because I have two mines ecu's i am about to sell. One of em is from my car which the Apexi power FC replaced.

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