Look at this import R33 GTR

[Lepperfish]

http://www.prestigemotorsport.com.au/?/au/...sp?StockID=2626

They say this car appears to have a genuine 24,000kms, who are they kidding, it does look a fair bit cleaner then the average import being shipped down under, have a look at the engine bay pics, that engine looks pretty tired..

[martydaman]

that car was sold in a few hours after posting. Most of the engine components are peeling, especially the plenum and cam cover, not good for 24,000k's. But on the plus side, no wear on the steering wheel, seat and shifter. Conflicting signs :confused:

[Lepperfish]

The seats, steering wheel and gear knob can be replaced easily compared with engine components.. if it were as good as it says it was it would be more then 29k

[martydaman]

but if you went to the trouble with replacing all those things, why wouldnt you repaint those certian engine components to make the engine look newer?? You'd be pretty stupid to do a half ass'ed job and leave the engine looking in that sorry state.

[Rezz]

Of course the odometer's been wound back! It's an import!!

In Japan, you'd be crazy to sell a car WITHOUT the odo being wound back.

[martydaman]

we are not disputing the fact that its been wound back, of course it has. What i dont understand is why someone would wind it back to 24,000k's and leave the engine looking like that? wouldnt you consider that to be a dead giveaway of a windback?

[Lepperfish]

Yeah that!!

[hippy]

so it sold for 29000 ... how much extra to get it into your driveway? cause man 29000 sounds pretty cheap!!

[martydaman]

actually that price includes shipping, compliance, all taxes and the brokers fee. All you need to do is register it. It is a cheap price but it probably is too good to be true, although somebody did snap it up pretty quickly

[funkymonkey]

if that car came from a certain supplier I wouldn't be surprised, they have a tendancy to deal in cars with wound back odo's from what I've been told by their customers and ex-employees

[Blitz]

So much criticism.

Compared to some of the other complete shite heaps that pop up that looks like an exceptional car for the money. Stock standard and un-molestered, thats the best way to buy. The fact that paint has peeled off the plenum means nothing.

At the end of the day, the condition looks fairly consistant with the claimed km's (wether true km's or not) and the price is excellent.

The buyer got themselves a very nice car.

[slayer_1971]

I actaully contacted Prestige about this car as I was very interested in it but I was too late....

According to Prestige (Geoff) the kilometers are genuine...."Supplier bought it cheaply from a friend of his who owns the car"

[funkymonkey]

that's true, regardless of the kms it reads, its a really shmick car, and overall in pretty good condition. To date I'm yet to see an R33 GTR that has got a stock plenum without the orginial paint peeling.

[Lepperfish]

The fact the paint has peeled off the plenum means alot I think..

How could an engine with 24k kms on it be in such shabby condition?

Like I said in my 1st post, it does look like a clean unmolested example, but those kms and engine condition dont add up..

Blitz: how many kms did your 33GTR have? Was the plenum like that ?

I admit that I dont have any experience with GTR like you, do all GTR engine look like that after 24k kms ?

[SteveL]

'Peeling' of the paint on the intake manifold and cambelt cover looks like corrosion damage, and the alloy turbo pipe with the 'twin turbo' badge looks to have white, powdery aluminium alloy corrosion product on the upper surfaces. Corrosion like that usually occurs on parts that have 'sat around' for while, ie may not have been used very much, which could be consistant with the k's and the condition of the reat of the car. Could be a bargain.

Edit: corrosion damage could also occur if the car was exposed to a saltwater environment, but you'd also begin to see damage on a lot of other components in the enginebay (and even in parts of the body) if that occurred over any length of time, like since 1995 when the car was manufactured

[Lepperfish]

I actaully contacted Prestige about this car as I was very interested in it but I was too late....

According to Prestige (Geoff) the kilometers are genuine...."Supplier bought it cheaply from a friend of his who owns the car"

SO he thought he would pass on the savings to the Aussie customer?

Isnt it their business to make money of selling cheap cars for an inflated price to the Australian domestic market?

Just because a car has less KMS then another, it doesnt mean the car with less kays is better..

[Shell]

SO he thought he would pass on the savings to the Aussie customer?

Isnt it their business to make money of selling cheap cars for an inflated price to the Australian domestic market?

I think you're thinking of some car dealerships, not brokers

Brokers make their money from their brokers fee, not by inflating the price. You should pay what they paid for the actual car - whether they source it from an auction or otherwise.

[V8skylineMAN]

corrosion like that also happens when you wash the engine bay with truck wash and leave the stuff on there too long before rinsing it off....it will also take old paint off....much like that plenum.

[sewid]

'Peeling' of the paint on the intake manifold and cambelt cover looks like corrosion damage, and the alloy turbo pipe with the 'twin turbo' badge looks to have white, powdery aluminium alloy corrosion product on the upper surfaces.  Corrosion like that usually occurs on parts that have 'sat around' for while, ie may not have been used very much, which could be consistant with the k's and the condition of the reat of the car.    Could be a bargain.

Edit: corrosion damage could also occur if the car was exposed to a saltwater environment, but you'd also begin to see damage on a lot of other components in the enginebay (and even in parts of the body) if that occurred over any length of time, like since 1995 when the car was manufactured

Steve is on the money here. I am also going to add to this and say the car may have been driven in a cold climate up in northern parts of Japan. In Japan some prefectures salt the roads in winter and this has a really dramatic effect on cars.

The pictures scream salt damage to me. The underside of the car is probably corroded in places as well.

[sewid]

that's true, regardless of the kms it reads, its a really shmick car, and overall in pretty good condition. To date I'm yet to see an R33 GTR that has got a stock plenum without the orginial paint peeling.

True, this is probably why the R34 GTR plenum is not painted.

My red RB26DETT is not peeling though, im sure they improved the paint in the R34 though.