R33 GTS 511rwhp-Stock injectors DYNO

[INASNT]

Steve May

I have never had a problem starting my car.

Peter Blight whats the address in bunbury? do you have sealed roads there yet? (Joke)

Nguyen

my car cranks over 3-4 time before it fires i like this. as it lets me get a little bit of oil pressure. When i was about to start my car at pas i was teased "dont start on me cause your wolf wont start" something like that. I then noticed that the r34 with the motec was going to be moved, all i said was ''watch this''. 8-9 cranks later it started. i said nothing else as the looks on their faces was enough.

Inasnt.

moron i will get down to the drags and i will post my times for all.

We wont hold our breath!

Has paul stock injector car ever seen the strip?

[fane]

i know paul's car has seen the strip but im not sure of hp rating then and whether he had stock injectors in.... it was a 12s pass tho

[ylwgtr2]

Has anyone tryed to pass an ADR test with oversized injectors? Closed loop cycles close to stoic but a large injector gets very dirty just of stoic and even Motec cant keep them clean enuff to pass a test this is the reason i run the smallest injector i can get away with.

We have a new fuel system going to Vipac engineering early next week for Australian ADR approval that has already passed WA tests and with the years of R+D on this system we learnt a lot about injector control and have this car down to zero emissions and yes it is Wolf controlled as the Motec could not clip closed loop tight enuff.Any one in Altona victoria look out for this car at Vipac Wed.

One of my close friend's brother also works at Vipac!.....wow its turning out i know the people that steve knows.....maybe i should ask THEM his secret

[tomj]

end of the day

and i dont really care about being nice about this

why bother coming on here and waving your flag in the air saying "oh loooooooook at meeeeeee im the greatest my cars can do this and yours cant"

we are all skyline and performance enthusiasts here, so when someone goes, "wow thats great, how do you do it"

and your reply is "oh im not telling you cos then id not be the coolest" you sound like an utter retard. you make you look bad, you make your customers look bad, you make perth and wa look like ****wits.

tristan has now become involved in a fight he had no intention of being in. and guess what he is being sucked in further and further. tristan, just stay out of this, dont get dragged down to retard status. its not worth it.

ppl from the east - i assure you we are all not morons. please believe this. some of us are willing to talk about our mods and how they work. try gtr ken for one.

heres one for you all also - nd4spd was built by the owner is his own background, tuned by the owner - it just happens to have a wolf - its got ****all to do with sst, or the basic summary - ant = champ , steve = chump. so next time he flops this one out (every post) just remember that.

end of the day shut the fudge up until tristan does a time.

[tomj]

Sequential systems offer better control of the injector at low and high pulse widths do to several facts. "Bank to Bank" or "Batch Fire" systems fire half or all of the injectors at once and in the case of a "batch fire" system, the injectors are fired every engine revolution. Sequential systems fire each injector just like the spark plug, each injector can be controlled as to the time it fires relative to the spark (phasing), the amount of fuel delivered and any cylinder fuel trim desired. The Sequential system fires once every two engine revolutions on a four cycle engine. When HP outputs require that injectors are chosen with "low impedance" coils and large flow rates, these injectors often operate at very low pulse widths at idle. Sometimes the double fire, batch or bank/bank operation modes will not offer the idle quality desired. Sequential systems offer individual cylinder control often used in racing where air flow to different cylinders is not the same and small corrections are desired to make the air fuel ratio to all cylinders exactly the same to get the ultimate performance possible. The sequential will have also have greater control of the injector at high pulse widths and slightly extend the injectors usable working range.

read that begin to think

hmm if it fires fuel in every cylinder at every pulse, then those injectors sure arnt working like stockers..... it aint that hard ppl

[magic1]

Tom im not fighting anything.

This is my car, not sst's.

I have a huge respect for sst. i hold them in the highest regard. this is my opinion, this only matters to me as you can form your own opinion. as you have. people can take on board what i have to say and make up their own mind. I dont care what people say about me and what i have done. the simple fact in life if you pander to everyone you meet, who are you living for. be more selfish and do something for your self. (this is my opinion)

Forums are opinion based, its a matter for all users to sort the wheat from the chaff. there are some very smart people here and it is a well used resource but fighting it out like we are here is not helping anything. some things i have noticed are.

1. People are all to happy to ask questions of me and when i ask 1 back i get nothing.

2. it amazes me in some parts of this forum Dyno Dynamics shoot out mode is praised, we have now run 438rwhp in shoot out mode and we have tampered with the dyno, or lying about something.

3. i thought Paul was talking up the "tall poppy syndrome" he endured last year at pass when he made 435ish.

sydneykid can you please tell us some of your secrects from your race car team. you must know a few. why not???

Go buy a wolf between 10 of you eastern staters, tune it see how its done again sydneykid i know you could probably do this.

wednesday i hope to be at the drags

I am taking my car to bunbury next sunday (dyno day)

4th of december i am going to hyperdrive (dyno day)

in the mean time i will take it to work everyday and enjoy my car. why because i built it for me.

[Sydneykid]

sydneykid can you please tell us some of your secrects from your race car team. you must know a few. why not???

I have nothing to sell, I don't run/own/work in a retail workshop, I have no need for people coming to me to work on their road car. We race against other race teams, obviously they have their secrets and we have ours. This competition is our business, winning is what we are trying to achieve.

I think you are drawing a long bow in comparing a closed shop race team with a full on retail outlet trying to attract customers.

That said, whenever I have made a claim I have backed it with sufficient information for readers to make their own judgement. I generally include the basic calculations and formulas.

[LUMPY]

Nice thread guys. I learnt nothing, but pulled several muscles laughing at the bullshit thrown out. Those of you with the shovel's, keep digging. The hole is getting deaper.

We look forward Tristan and others coming to the Antilag dyno day. From my perspective, comparing his results on my dyno to those produced elsewhere will be interesting. Ours is always claimed to be lower than other 'shoot-out' accredited machines, but I have never seen anyone produce a genuine 'shoot-out' graph. Those familiar with 'shoot-out' will know what I mean. I am not suggesting tampering, I am just saying that I never see graphs come in that are certified by the scruitineer, so must be considered indicative. You also never see major power effecting items shown on the 'shoot-out' graphs produced elsewhere, for example boost, so you cant really gauge a valid comparison.

Regardless, I like my dyno for it's purpose, which isnt to compare one shop against another.

As a once Wolf dealer, I now send all Wolf enquiries direct to SST, as they are the Wolf masters and the only people I know of with the patience to deal with it. We are concentrating on other systems.

For those interested, we have a R33 GTS plug-in ECU for sale, as the owner wanted something more than it would give. Perhaps some of the WOlf critics should tip some pennies in and see if you can figure out the magic and mysteries of the system. Of course you will have to direct all enquiries to the No1 Wolf dealer for support. It has been posted in the for sale classifieds for some time, yet we have had no enquiry or offer, which doesnt surprise me.

I never saw anything in any Wolf sanctioned documentation regarding the injector trickery, nor ever received any assistance or hint as to what the magic is. One might suggest that the injectors, sequentially, batched, banked or whatever other configuration, are being fired once per crankshaft revolution, rather than once per engine cycle, but the truth may never be known. It doesnt really matter. It works for them.

Obviously if all you can afford is $1395 for an ecu and you cant afford correctly sized injectors, then it is a good alternative if you can live with it. With that said, on such limited budgets, I cant see how anyone can justify trying to pull extreme power out of a generally tired engine........ if you cant afford decent hardware, then you certainly cant afford to build a new engine!

Thanks again to all those whom contributed to this, and I look forward to seeing some of you at the Antilag dyno day, coming soon to Hyperdrive Motorsport.

[Roy]

Looking at the drag times it appears that Majic1 has already run a 12.7 at 119mph...thats pretty serious terminal speed:thumbsup:

[tomj]

he sure has

lumpy thankyou for the maturity shown in your reply.

[R32-GTS]

Theres lots and lots of shit been talked in this thread . If i was tristan. I would just say nothing and let the car do the talking as i know it will.

[N I B]

Last word. I tuned ND4SPD and Anthony is 1/2 owner of SST so it is a full SST car.

TJ runs Antilag and most of their top cars,GOTBOOST,DATSQIK MAGIC1 etc are all SST tuned and run Wolfs.TJs problem he made a prick of him self and was asked never to come to SST again.Tru story.

[Kaido_RR]

cheers, for the reply magic about the cold start

goo lumpy good reply

[R32-GTS]

Yes TJ im quite dissapointed on your little story there.

[tomj]

Last word. I tuned ND4SPD and Anthony is 1/2 owner of SST so it is a full SST car.

TJ runs Antilag and most of their top cars,GOTBOOST,DATSQIK MAGIC1 etc are all SST tuned and run Wolfs.TJs problem he made a prick of him self and was asked never to come to SST again.Tru story.

oh nooooooo! i said wolf has shit cold start so you told me not to come to your workshop - oh nooooo *cry , tears, sadness*

true story hey, you want some true stories? im happy to post some true stories. then you can threaten me with legal action because i bagged god himself. ive got some ripper stories. might write then all down, then post em.

Wanna know why i bagged wolf? because i finally had enough of the constant dribble of shit about it and how anyone not sst or wolf is shit and dodgey. its like the bible was written by the word of thomas. you need to calm down , pull your bald head and its ego in, because end of the day your going too far. id even apologise , but all its going to get me is more dribble on how good wolf is. heres a news flash- there are better tuners then you in perth , and better ecus then wolf on the market.

Simon, good to see that even after Steve told everyone you where a thief and scum that your still licking his ass for a discount on wolf and tuning. Must be real cheap to able to lower yourself to the lower of someone who shamed you behind your back.

[tomj]

BTW- thanks for the pm entitled stupid ****. it went alot like this.

You know i tune nd4spd and gotboost and datsquk etc and know i dont blow engines but as you are a very weak person that has to live his poor life thru antilag you feel you need to jump on idiots band wagons.

I should start sending you things ppl you think are yopur mates say about you.Very sad if you could have controlled your mouth there would never have been a problem.Why do somany antilagers still come here if your the big man? many think you are a dumb kid

hahahahahaha. thanks for this awefully funny pm, i nearly cried laughing.

[IMACUL8]

ROTFLMAO

This has now offically become the funniest thread ever.... love it

Its like a episode o the bold and the beautiful.

[Dsturbd]

The Bald & the beautiful :headspin:

[tomj]

well we know which part of it is the bald......

[Sydneykid]

Looking at the drag times it appears that Majic1 has already run a 12.7 at 119mph...thats pretty serious terminal speed:thumbsup:

Hi Roy, good point, 119 mph indicates a power output around 240 rwkw (~320rwhp) in an R33GTST/R34GTT. I can think of 4 or 5 cars with that sort of power that have run that TS...

2rismo 117 mph with 300 rwhp

Ben 120 mph with 328 rwhp

Doughboy 123 mph with 347 rwhp

Got Boost 121 mph with 375 rwhp

BU5TER 128 mph with 429 rwhp

So with "511 rwhp" (that's the title of this thread) 130 mph should be a breeze. Boosted Zed (admittedly not an R33/34, but still a reasonable comparison) did 130 mph with 517 rwhp.

So, as I have posted previously, 130 mph is the target.