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How the **** do you only sustain a broken leg in that sort of carnage?

Sorry but that doesnt sound realistic to me

I know, they probably covered it up because he is 30 and not making it sound bad.

Media and government will do stuff like that.... Believe it or not!

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^^^^ Just be glad hes ok...

I dont think the media will lie about what happened in that situation.. They might twist it a little, but they have no right to twist the injuries of a person..

But Drive Safely everyone!!!

At this rate with crashes, in 2 years time, we will all be walking!!! I dont want to give up my Skyline, and because im on green p's, I still have anohter year to go. Just hope if they do power to weight restrictions, it will kick in after im off my greens. "Fingers crossed"

On the other hand, that guy who survived the split in 2 WRX, that is one dam lucky guy!

At this rate with crashes, in 2 years time, we will all be walking!!! I dont want to give up my Skyline, and because im on green p's, I still have anohter year to go. Just hope if they do power to weight restrictions, it will kick in after im off my greens. "Fingers crossed"

On the other hand, that guy who survived the split in 2 WRX, that is one dam lucky guy!

if the restrictions get in, i'm goin to try to apply for an exemption

only car i have in my household and i live in the hills district (pain the backside.. no trains)

i also have a clean driving record so i hope that helps

i wouldve been off my p's already but i was too lazy to go for my greens whilst i was on my reds hahaha.. delayed for like a whole year...

Something I posted on another forum, food for thought perhaps.

I have a powerful car and have had it for a year now, not one incident or damage to my car due to my driving (Except scraping my rims upon parking once and the occasional front bar scrapes on ridiculously high and shaped speed humps)

You can teach and tell people to behave all you want, this kid didn't listen to his father when he took out the car. Even if there was a power limit the car would've been taken out because that's what he wanted to do that night and that's what he did that night.

It's just people's behaviour, not laws. There will always be people out there shop lifting even though we all know its bad.

What are you going to do? Ban anyone looking suspicious from entering supermarkets? Ban all males under 25 because they have higher potential of theft?

One P-Plater dies on the road each week, there is still another few thousand out there driving without incident.

I'm pretty sure there is a more serious issue, that happens many times more that isn't getting the attention of the media or governemnt, that this topic is getting.

And on the topic of new laws and driver training.

The government says they will do correct every problem/flaw in society, but we are humans and we'll always be making mistakes. Promises and suggestions are made by Government and enthusiasts groups like us actually believe them, where in reality problems like this are so small in the whole array of problems the government has to deal with.

i agree with dezerteagle, there are sum of us out there who have clean driving records with powerful cars and im one of them. The restrictions are not going to to anything, there will still be those people who will take out the cars and end up doing something stupid.

All i can say is there are some idiots that spoil it for the rest of us.

i agree with dezerteagle, there are sum of us out there who have clean driving records with powerful cars and im one of them.  The restrictions are not going to to anything, there will still be those people who will take out the cars and end up doing something stupid.

All i can say is there are some idiots that spoil it for the rest of us.

This isnt a personal attack against you MR R33, but saying you have a clean history is all good and well, but if you are only 18 years of age then you have very limited driving experience.

I think its more about ability and experience - which when you are 18 and on your provisional license is severely lacking.

One thing i have learned. Your driving record is a poor reflection of your driving ability.

I know people who have been caught street racing and still have 12 points..

I like what dezerteagle said. The behaviour of a few people does not dictate the behavior of the rest. People will speed and hoon about like mentalists.. its fact

P plate restrictions would not stop these accidents, the kid pritty much pinched the car and went for a joyride.

This isnt a personal attack against you MR R33, but saying you have a clean history is all good and well, but if you are only 18 years of age then you have very limited driving experience.

I think its more about ability and experience - which when you are 18 and on your provisional license is severely lacking.

exactly what i was thinking..

I agree, just because people have got a clean record doesn't mean they are a safer driver and a better driver.... it can mean that they are lucky to of never been caught doing something stupid.

I don't think that there is overly too much that the government is going to be able to do to prevent this, as someone mentioned above, it won't stop you ng people dying!

Ban from the car - they will take it anyway

Advanced driving course - Won't help when you hit a bump in the road doing 200km/h

Scare campaign (that the stupid telegraph are trying) - Won't work, nearly everyone lives by the same motto "won't happen to me" have a look at the cigarette campaigns, they try to scare you on the front of the packet, I am a smoker and I ignore it.

Take their licence - They will drive without it

I don't mean to sound negative, but I honestly can't see a solution that will change the way people act on the road. Some people drive carefully, others don't....

I agree, just because people have got a clean record doesn't mean they are a safer driver and a better driver.... it can mean that they are lucky to of never been caught doing something stupid.

I don't think that there is overly too much that the government is going to be able to do to prevent this, as someone mentioned above, it won't stop you ng people dying!

Ban from the car - they will take it anyway

Advanced driving course - Won't help when you hit a bump in the road doing 200km/h

Scare campaign (that the stupid telegraph are trying) - Won't work, nearly everyone lives by the same motto "won't happen to me" have a look at the cigarette campaigns, they try to scare you on the front of the packet, I am a smoker and I ignore it.

Take their licence - They will drive without it

I don't mean to sound negative, but I honestly can't see a solution that will change the way people act on the road. Some people drive carefully, others don't....

i agree as well

There is not much the gov't can do. But they can't just sit there and do nothing. They have to look like they're doing something. So they'll just whip up some law/rule and make it like they're doing something.

I still believe the only preventative method is attitude. Too much are young people shown the "glitz and glamour" of dangerous driving.

On the topic of 'legal record' being indicitive of driving skill:

My mum has a clean record with 17 years of driving and I will tell you now she speeds more then me. I've driven for around 3 years now and have 3 speeding fine at least of 15km or greater.

I've been to the track and taken a stage 1 driving course and wet-skid pan practice. And pretty sure I can handle sticky situation better then my mum.

Wrong place wrong time, wrong monkey wrong branch, however you want to say it.

Daily Telegraph is for uneducated bogans anyway... No offense if you read it, but it's full of crap. If you want a real paper, either get the Herald or the Australian.

However, news is just another form of entertainment these days, they're *spruce* it up however they can I guess.

from what a saw when i was there last night it looked like the the car was split from the fire wall onwards leaving the drivers side totally exposed. When the car was on its roof it looked like there was no chance of him being ok. lucky for him though

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