keep bad people away

[Shell]

we used to have the "minimum posts to post in the For Sale" thingy happening and it didn't work, can't exactly remember why - but i think one of the reasons was SPAM and crap posts everywhere.

The email address with a ISP might be a good idea..

maybe something when you sign up saying yahoo/hotmail type emails can't post in the classifieds, but can post in the rest of the forums... i dunno..

[R31Nismoid]

yeah...people spammed the board like crazy.

I remember that. Then forum was brought to a halt virtually for 3 days as spammers went berserk

[performance-wise]

Is it possible for SAU to set up a bank account where the customer deposits the money for the item(s) into this account, where it remains and is transfered to the seller only when the customer receives the item?

And to also make this a cumpulsery option for all people selling on the forum.

ie- The option MUST be clearly available on all items for sale.

[tridentt150v]

Is it possible for SAU to set up a bank account where the customer deposits the money for the item(s) into this account, where it remains and is transfered to the seller only when the customer receives the item?

And to also make this a cumpulsery option for all people selling on the forum.

ie- The option MUST be clearly available on all items for sale.

I reckon your onto something there gR33ddy, one of my pet hates is that ppl don't pay anytning for the use of the for sale section, and then they abuse the bejesus out of it with scam spam and dud buys.

I reckon use your idea and let SAU take 10% of every sale, this would fund the site, almost stop scammers, and 100% stop bad deals. I sold a bit on these forums, but I donated [helped my conscience], and joined SAU.

[silver gts-t]

its a good idea, but there would always have to be someone monitoring it,

[performance-wise]

its a good idea, but there would always have to be someone monitoring it,

Potentially it would be a lot of work to keep up to but as you said previously that if it can prevent at least one person from getting ripped off then it is a success, this aswell as implementing a time period before a person can sell something. Maybe SAU needs more mods/staff.

I reckon the people that have already proven themselves as honest, reliable traders will not have the third party request by the customer as much as a new member selling stuff. So the load may not be as much as we think.

So as long as the option is always available and all sellers agree to co-operate with it then it should work.

10% commision for SAU seems a bit too high. 3-5% maybe??

[silver gts-t]

i think its a great idea but way to high maintance.

the mods are people that have lives, work and other committments, they cant be expected to monitor this sort of things also.

theres all the other website that sell parts, and they can have a hard enough time doin this sort of thing. so i think this is aiming a lil high

[performance-wise]

As I said previously

" Maybe SAU needs more mods/staff. "

This method would prevent people from getting ripped off - that is the result that we are looking for.

[silver gts-t]

As I said previously  

" Maybe SAU needs more mods/staff. "

This method would prevent people from getting ripped off - that is the result that we are looking for.

maybe they do, and i still agree with it being a great idea.

but still a big idea, at that.

havnt really seen many mods giving their opinion in here

[performance-wise]

you are right it is a big idea but it is a big problem. Yer we should wait for some mods to voice there opinions aswell.

[performance-wise]

**bump**

Well mods??

[Muz]

Maybe just a simple set of guidelines when purchasing items in the "For Sale" forum.

1. All negotiations should be done via email or PM (This provides a paper trail)

2. Where possible payment should be by COD.

3. Seller must display items (pics) otherwise no post is allowed.

4. Seller must be willing to provide a verifiable residential address, current Drivers Licence details, and where possible a land line phone number (verifiable in current phone book)

5. If not COD then a maximum of 10% deposit. (reduces the risk)

6. Always obtain a tracking number and courier company name. (verify item has been dispatched)

7. Use Western Union as the intermediary.

If you are a seller, keep the customer informed of what is happening to their goods. Good customer service is somewhat lacking in todays society.

Remember "Caveat Emptor" loose translation = Buyer Beware

Cheers

Muz

[R31Nismoid]

As I said previously  

" Maybe SAU needs more mods/staff. "

This method would prevent people from getting ripped off - that is the result that we are looking for.

not really. we have a LOT of mods.

Look, at the end of the day its upto you users to check who your buying from.

There are many means to make sure you get what you pay for.

The mods can only do so much. And remember there is always 2 sides to every story also

[performance-wise]

not really. we have a LOT of mods.

Look, at the end of the day its upto you users to check who your buying from.

There are many means to make sure you get what you pay for.

The mods can only do so much. And remember there is always 2 sides to every story also

Its still not going to prevent scammers like doridori - cant you guys come up with anything better?

[Beer Baron]

not really. we have a LOT of mods.

Look, at the end of the day its upto you users to check who your buying from.

There are many means to make sure you get what you pay for.

The mods can only do so much. And remember there is always 2 sides to every story also

I agree with this.

plus people should use the feedback system. appart from that it's:

buyer beware. enough said.

[predator]

problem is people like doridori have a trader rating of like 3.. which to most would probably mean "that seems ok, I'll trade with him". But obviously there are equally as many that have been ripped by him, and that is where it can be a problem.

Even if there is just one that has a bad experience, that almost makes them a bad trader automatically.

And often a lot of the time, they don't set out to rip everybody else, but there are those traders that just seem to have a suspiciously high problem factor - no matter what the reasons they are the ones that need to be stopped. Many often I would say are simply too stupid or without conscience so some barely even realise they're ripping people off with their actions.

[R31Nismoid]

Its still not going to prevent scammers like doridori - cant you guys come up with anything better?

and we have already stated, no measure will EVER stop people like him who are determined.

there is no 100% solution.

only deterrents... and as you can see he is not easily deterred

[The_Paladin]

i cant see how someone like dori cant set up multiple accounts to give one of the accounts a good trader rating.........

the list posted by Muz looks like the best at this stage..........

[predator]

you can also look at the other people giving him a trader rating. If they all have a trader rating of (0)'s themselves, then it pays to be suspicious. I do that when looking at traders.

You just have to delete people like that when spotted.. They'll soon get sick of the effort and stuffing around to keep creating accounts and make it look like they are somebody else.

People like doridori can hardly string a sentence together, nevermind trying to pas themselves off as somebody respectable.

[performance-wise]

and we have already stated, no measure will EVER stop people like him who are determined.

there is no 100% solution.

only deterrents... and as you can see he is not easily deterred

You guys may not be able to stop all scammers but preventing just some is a huge step forward for the customer/user/member.

Dosent seem like you's are that willing to fix this problem up to me. And its only going to get worse cos you wont do anything to fix it.