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i have a auto r32 4 door....i've got a garrett gt30, fmic, pod down the front for cai and a 3 inch turbo back exhaust with no cat....

i made 226hp at the wheels (around 170kw) and 567nm of torque on 10 psi of boost.....in an auto its good because you don't loose boost during gear changes.... when my car was standard i raced a 2 door r32 even though it was a rolling start and he took off one car length ahead of me i won by around 3 car lengths....

the guy who does the work on my car owns a turbo torana with a stally and a 2 speed auto, he ran a 10.7 even after his fuel cut out the last 100m of the quarter...

he told me in an auto you will lose some power but might make up cos you won't lose boost through gear changes, my first changes at 8 grand so its a bit sluggish...

he told me in a manual i will feel the power more....and if i'm a good driver than i will do good down the quarter....but most ppl who want to go quick usually get an auto for the pure fact that boost is not lost through the gear changes....

I'm running my car next week so ill let you guys know how i do....

then ill do a before and after.....

:crazy:

man that is very cheap . did he explain why it was so cheap ? id be wondering .....

if you look around you can find a full manual conversion kit for under a grand

for an rb20det it was $900

The kit consists of: Gearbox & cross member & Tailshaft

Flywheel & Bolts

Clutch & bolts

Clutch & Brake Pedals

Clutch Master & Slave Cyl (pipe not cut)

Sandwich Plate

Body Dust Seal & Gearstick Boot

It contains everything to convert Auto To Manual.

if your in luck the clutch will be good, whoever does it will machine your flywheel aswell....but i would buy a new clutch.....

if you ask around for labour then you might get it cheaper than 2 grand all up....

also depending on how much your clutch costs....

and if you need help there's guys that have done the conversion and know how to perfect it just use the search and there's all the info you need....

Nah it didnt do anything on the dyno

But with the change of power to the shifts thats the power gain i were getting at compared to what a manual would lose they'd be very similar one would think now.

The best thing about autos though is no paying for clutches :)

But that isn't a change in power, its less time between shifts.

Depends which way you look at it.

With the standard valve bodies the gears will change slowly as to not jolt the car to make it a smooth ride.

With a modified torque/stall converter power is not restricted nor lost as its transfered alot faster.

*shrugs*

if you look around you can find a full manual conversion kit for under a grand  

for an rb20det it was $900  

The kit consists of:         Gearbox & cross member  & Tailshaft

                                    Flywheel & Bolts

                                    Clutch & bolts

                                    Clutch & Brake Pedals

                                    Clutch Master & Slave Cyl (pipe not cut)

                                    Sandwich Plate

                                    Body Dust Seal & Gearstick Boot

It contains everything to convert Auto To Manual.  

if your in luck the clutch will be good, whoever does it will machine your flywheel aswell....but i would buy a new clutch.....

if you ask around for labour then you might get it cheaper than 2 grand all up....

also depending on how much your clutch costs....

and if you need help there's guys that have done the conversion and know how to perfect it just use the search and there's all the info you need....

Could you point me in the direction of where to get one of these R32 GTS-t full manual conversion kits for 900?

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I have to agree with you though, the few who try and give me a run all apear in the rear view vission mirror.

haha

yor funny old man

i know who would win with an auto vs manual with same mods

id say most 200kw manuals would put pay to your 220kw auto

besides, who wants to drive an auto?

not me

i aint no taxi driver (even if i do have 4 doors)

I dare say the myth is based on the rough calculation of manual drivetrain losing 30%. I would guess it wouldn't be a long shot for an auto with a dodgy torque converter to bump the loss up to 40%. It's definaltely not 40% OVER a manual. that's just stoopid. why do all good drag cars run autos?

saying that, i'm a manual lover, you just dont "drive" an auto the way you do a manual. takes some of the skill out of it :P imo.

id say most 200kw manuals would put pay to your 220kw auto

Please explain why a 220kw car should be beaten by a 200kw car? (Assuming similar suspension setups and equal driver skills)

Remember an auto can start on boost, unlike a manual, and it gets the benefit on more torque. There is a reason why almost all top levels of motor sport (drag, F1, rally) use auto boxes. You sound like just another 15yr old NOOB talking out of your ***.

There is a reason why almost all top levels of motor sport (drag, F1, rally) use auto boxes. You sound like just another 15yr old NOOB talking out of your ***.

mate, Formula 1 cars DO NOT use auto gear boxes. they are full manual up and down shift. Rally Cars DO NOT used auto gear boxes. V8 Super Cars DO NOT use auto gear boxes. Sports Sedans DO NOT use auto gear boxes. JGTC cars DO NOT use auto gearboxes. Other than drag racing no top level form of motor sport uses auto gearboxes.

Yes, auto's have an advantage at the drag strip. big deal. if you wanted a drag car I think you would be better off with an 800kg 13b turbo powered RX3 with a two speed. Any other form of motorsport and the only auto you will see is on the cars and trucks that are used to tow the race cars.

Formula 1 cars DO NOT use auto gear boxes...

:werd: alot of people mix up sequential manuals with autos. I call them automatic manuals ie the shift is automatic, but the box isn't; no torque converter, no planetary gear system, etc. If it has a torque converter it's an auto, if it dont, a manual. simple.

So 4 door sleeper, it would appear that YOU are the "15 yr old NOOB talking out of your ***" :)

I cited the drag strip argument to illustrate nothing more than that every auto in the world isn't utterly shite beside a manual. saying that, no full auto could ever emulate the insight of correct gear selection before reaching a corner etc, nor can it offer the weight set up into corners etc. I'll say it again, you dont DRIVE an auto, save fiddling with the throttle to try and get the f*&ker into the gear you want.

I'd even go out on a limb and say that drag racing is the only racing that an auto is suited for. Awesome for starts, cause all you have to think about is the right revs, then stomp it as soon as you're off the brakes. no clutch bite to worry about.

Remember an auto can start on boost, unlike a manual,

dont know much about manuals eh?

i can start on boost

i just rev up (to say 5000rpm)

let clutch out, revs drop slightly boost comes on straight away

voila, lauching on boost!

im sure if autos were the shit as you preach pops, that gtrs and other performance cars would come in auto as standard

they dont seem to though do they?

autos have their place though (drag cars, cars for people that are easily distracted and need two hands on the wheel at all times, taxis)

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