Stagea Turbo Upgrade

[AMS]

Oh no, I actually did the stereo first.    

cheers

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:lol:

[Tangles]

Oh no, I actually did the stereo first.    

cheers

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Im not sure I want to believe that SK!!

Now I know how Luke felt when Darth had a 'father to son' chat with him in SkyCity....... hahahahaha :lol:

Sweet - how many Amps & Subs did you fill up the wagon space with??!!

Brendan

[Sydneykid]

  Im not sure I want to believe that SK!! 

Now I know how Luke felt when Darth had a 'father to son' chat with him in SkyCity....... hahahahaha :lol:

Sweet - how many Amps & Subs did you fill up the wagon space with??!!

Brendan

Hahaha Brendan :lol: , I wasn't pulling your leg. I used a Nakamichi head unit with a 120 watt per channnel 4 channel SoundStream amp and 4 X MB Quart coaxials (one in each door). No room for sub's though, I need the rear space for race car stuff. Load carrying is the main reason why I got a Stagea in the first place. That, and its ability to tow the race car.

Sound is good, no doof doof in my Stagea.

cheers

[Loop]

/me <3's Soundstream ... but not the new stuff

[Tangles]

Hahaha Brendan :lol: , I wasn't pulling your leg.  I used a Nakamichi head unit with a 120 watt per channnel 4 channel SoundStream amp and 4 X MB Quart coaxials (one in each door).  No room for sub's though, I need the rear space for race car stuff.  Load carrying is the main reason why I got a Stagea in the first place.  That, and its ability to tow the race car.

Sound is good, no doof doof in my Stagea.  

cheers 

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No drum'n'bass then?... Oh well, each to their own hey!! Thats all I really listen too- not into the lyrics and electric (air!) guitars, Kiss style face paint and the like

Yeah, the stag boot space is for using, not clutering up with sub-boxes and the like. Mines for the increasing family (read prams and dog), and towing the Fireblade to Mallala (just got to get a towbar and a trailer first!). Hopefully I can install an amp under one of the seats and just use good speakers thru the doors, maybe a small sub into the rear floor..

Good stuff. Anyways, I reckon your suggestion re: fuel lines is apt, so Im going to get that part all organised (fuel pump, nismo fpr, beefy lines etc + the z32afm I already have), and set up some dyno time with GWW to recalibrate the SAFC. No big injectors for me then.

Then save for the never-ending further mods. Brakes first, then turbo. Then suspension. Or as the funds allow. <_<

Cheers, Brendan

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Hahaha Brendan :lol: , I wasn't pulling your leg.  I used a Nakamichi head unit with a 120 watt per channnel 4 channel SoundStream amp and 4 X MB Quart coaxials (one in each door).  No room for sub's though, I need the rear space for race car stuff.  Load carrying is the main reason why I got a Stagea in the first place.  That, and its ability to tow the race car.

hey mcchook

what size co-axial's did you use in each door, as l'm not sure what size splits to get for the front, and what size co-ax's to get for the rear to add a bit of bass.

Also where did u mount your amp, didn't happen to mount it under the passenger seat did you?? As l'm hoping ot mount my 4 chnl amp there

[AMS]

My God, this threads fantastic!

:lol: :lol:

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My God, this threads fantastic!

  :lol:  :lol:

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Yeah, SK is just so imformative; Im really glad he's been able to contribute so much to these various threads. Makes fantastic reading, and Im sure a lot of members have been able to gleen a lot of information from SK. I certainly have, so a big Cheers to you mate.

Sweet... Brendan

[Tangles]

Thanks SK.

Now, in regards to the CGC High Flow, what is the MAX they are good for atw's? Is it possible to get 250-300atw's?

Cheers,

Chris

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GCG emailed me and were reckoning 220kw no worries, so I guess its a matter of fueling and cooling to get that bit more, or perhaps a bigger turbo (really, I have no idea!! - thats why Ive been asking some questions )

Cheers,

Brendan

[Sydneykid]

I put the amp in the space where the CD changer was, LHS rear 1/4 panel. The ATTESSA reservoir is in the RHS one.

The MB Quart are the DKE116's , HUUUGE improvement over the 15W Clarion twin cones that were there standard. The MB's are 165mm diagonal between the mounting holes and 180 mm total diagonal. Bit tricky to fit as the MB's are perfectly round and the standard speakers are a rounded off square.

cheers

Edited September 5, 2005 by Sydneykid

[Sydneykid]

Thanks SK.

Now, in regards to the CGC High Flow, what is the MAX they are good for atw's? Is it possible to get 250-300atw's?

Cheers,

Chris

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The 250 rwkw is not a problem. The R34GTT makes 265 rwkw with a GCG ball bearing high flow (11.9 at 120mph), best of all it has more power EVERYWHERE than when it was standard. Ian has the same on his R33GTST and he is up to ~270 rwkw. The big winner is the average power, it is very strong from 3,500 rpm to 7,500 rpm.

I don't think anyone will get to 300 rwkw though, that's a pretty big ask.

cheers

[AMS]

So is there much difference rwkw to awkw?

[AlexCim]

as SK noted, about 10-15kw is lost through front wheels... soo 10-15kw difference

[AMS]

Thanks AlexCim

[AMS]

OK, so how would go about getting 250kw at all 4's using this turbo?

Edited September 5, 2005 by Stagea RS-Four

[Sydneykid]

OK, so how would  go about getting 250kw at all 4's using this turbo?

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It's not the tubo that is going to limit you, it is the ECU. I haven't been able to get an RB25DET much over 225 rwkw with the standard computer and using piggy backs. The compromises just get too much to tune around.

Other items are easy;

Tomei 256 Poncams

Split dump/engine pipe combo

3.25" exhaust with a real high flow cat

Adj exhaust camshaft pulley

(Maybe one of Bass Junky's adjusters for the inlet camshaft as well, but I haven't tested mine yet)

Pipercros panel filter in the standard airbox

S15 JDM manual injectors (444 cc's)

R32/33 GTR fuel pump

R33/34 GTR intercooler

Z32 AFM

Unfortunately that's the problem with wanting more than ~210 4wkw, everything needs upgrading. So the cost of the extra 50 4wkw is very high. That's why my target is ~200 4wkw, it is a very economical to achieve power level.

cheers

[Tangles]

It's not the tubo that is going to limit you, it is the ECU.  I haven't been able to get an RB25DET much over 225 rwkw with the standard computer and using piggy backs.  The compromises just get too much to tune around.

Other items are easy;

Tomei 256 Poncams

Split dump/engine pipe combo

3.25" exhaust with a real high flow cat

Adj exhaust camshaft pulley

(Maybe one of Bass Junky's adjusters for the inlet camshaft as well, but I haven't tested mine yet)

Pipercros panel filter in the standard airbox

S15 JDM manual injectors (444 cc's)

R32/33 GTR fuel pump

R33/34 GTR intercooler

Z32 AFM

Unfortunately that's the problem with wanting more than ~210 4wkw, everything needs upgrading.  So the cost of the extra 50 4wkw is very high.  That's why my target is ~200 4wkw, it is a very economical to achieve power level.

cheers 

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Thanks for the advice, SK.

Cheers to you.

Brendan

[AMS]

Fantastic SK! Your a credit to yourself

Now in regards to those cams, how will they affect things like drivability, fuel economy, idle etc. etc.?

[Tangles]

Fantastic SK! Your a credit to yourself

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http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/in...showtopic=87663

a thread from the forced induction area of this site.... under $1200 for a hks type turbo; and in fact the turbo bigdatto is talking about I ws seriously considering bidding for!

Glad to hear there is at least 1 satisfied ebay turbo buyer out there, who has a recommendation. I think that might almost 'prove' that there are better value for money options out there than a 2grand hiflow job (sorry, I just cant get over why its so expensive to alter a standard turbo, when you can buy new ones for less).

Just my 2c worth. I'll seriously consider using this ebayer for a turbo... at the end of the day you just have to trust the seller that they are selling you a good product.

Now, big questiuon to ask yourselves; is that 'trust' worth a saving of $800...? (ie $1200 for hks2535 or $2000 for hiflow option) <_<

Brendan

[Sydneykid]

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/in...showtopic=87663

a thread from the forced induction area of this site.... under $1200 for a hks type turbo; and in fact the turbo bigdatto is talking about I ws seriously considering bidding for!

Glad to hear there is at least 1 satisfied ebay turbo buyer out there, who has a recommendation. I think that might almost 'prove' that there are better value for money options out there than a 2grand hiflow job (sorry, I just cant get over why its so expensive to alter a standard turbo, when you can buy new ones for less).

Just my 2c worth. I'll seriously consider using this ebayer for a turbo... at the end of the day you just have to trust the seller that they are selling you a good product.

Now, big questiuon to ask yourselves; is that 'trust' worth a saving of $800...? (ie $1200 for hks2535 or $2000 for hiflow option) <_<

Brendan

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Hi Brendan, you are not comparing apples with apples here. I can't speak about other high flows, but GCG use a brand new dual ball bearing core, new (larger diameter) shaft, new seals, new gaskets, new compressor, new turbine, machine the standard compressor and turbine covers to suite and them micro balance the whole rotating assembly. It's basically a new turbo, everything that is subject to wear is brand new. All the components are covered by Garrett new parts warranty.

It bolts back up exactly as it was when standard, everything fits, no mods, no extra parts, no missing bits, no days waiting for stuff to be made, just bolt it up up and drive away. That is simply not the case with an aftermarket turbo. You will most likely find yourself spending hundreds of dollars more buying and fabricating parts to get the off the shelf turbo to fit.

You can of course buy a turbo with a fitting kit for an RB25 (GTRS for example) but they cost ~$3,200 by the time they get here. That's a valid (total) cost comparison.

cheers

Edited September 15, 2005 by Sydneykid