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whaddayamean Adam "busted", perfectly legitimate statement intended to bait and draw out the rabid slider defenders. ;)

As for beers, well anyone who knows me would realise I was talking to everyone.........and after 20 year in a uniform everone has the same first name....Mate.

If the GTR is Godzilla then the t is "the Lizard", godlizard for family relation. Ever try to catch one of the quick little buggers? Something Dunc said recently was so true about braking distances and corner speeds and entry points. The GTR is a fair bit slower on all those but you can just stomp it out of corners where the t is short on traction.

I regard drifting as a motorsport, but for a lot of the reasons given (i.e. there's no objective measure of the winner) I don't have much respect for the motorsport itself. Just like I don't rate surfing, or gymnastics, etc. I wouldn't deny that they're sports, just like I don't deny that Daewoos are cars. They just not particularly good cars.....

Having crossed up my car and chucked a couple of wobblies, and taken to the skid pan, I have nothing but respect for those people that can hold those massive slides and link corners from high speeds consistently. But that should be a means to the end, not the end itself.

I look at drift as the "half time show" of motorsport. Kind of like the Lingerie Bowl, or NBA Slam Dunk Competitions. Great to watch, gets the spectators all fired up, but its only a warm-up to the real thing.

But just like those double spin, around the back, and over the head moves before putting the ball in the basket is just a bunch of fluff that serious players wouldn't do in a real game (unless they're trying to deceive the defender), hooking it sideways around a corner is something a serious racer would never do unless they make a mistake.

I regard drifting as a motorsport, but for a lot of the reasons given (i.e. there's no objective measure of the winner) I don't have much respect for the motorsport itself. Just like I don't rate surfing, or gymnastics, etc. I wouldn't deny that they're sports, just like I don't deny that Daewoos are cars. They just not particularly good cars.....

Hang on right there. Daewoos are not just good cars, they are good race cars. :P;)

Drifting's more of an Xtreme Sport than anything else. Where style, flair, speed and difficulty of the moves over rule times related benchmarks.

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