R32 vs R33

[Guest davidpandev]

heres a $60000 question for all the sklyine lovers out there thats sure to outrage the whole forum whats better and why R32'S OR R33'S my preference is r32 cause thet have a sleeker shape and the RB2ODET is a quality motor tell us wat ya think MRGTS4!:uh-huh:

[Shrub32]

the r34 is better

[Morgs]

I bought a R32 because they are less common than the R33s, and provide good bang for your buck. I love the shape, but now that we sold it, i don't know if i'd buy another one, unless it was a 32 GTR. Im actually kind of interested in a R33, as they have a better base for big HP, and are generally in cleaner condition due to age...

[hawks]

r32 :slap: r33

:werd:

seriously, they are two very different cars

[GTS-t VSPEC]

If we are talking GTR's then the 32 is better, less weight and a real race car.

If we are talking GTS-t's then the 33, better looks, engine and newer.

All skyline owners have a good thing, and I like all the cars, but some are better than others.

See'ya:burnout:

[Guest INASNT]

isent the r32 gts-4 turbo slower than to 100 than the r32gts-t even tho its 4 wheel drive cause the extra weight of the front diff?

[hawks]

the r33 seems to be a lot more popular

maybe they made more?

but, yeah, any skyline is a good car and excellent value for money.

[hawks]

Originally posted by INASNT

isent the r32 gts-4 turbo slower than to 100 than the r32gts-t even tho its 4 wheel drive cause the extra weight of the front diff?

yeah, but i dont think there is too much in it.

but they would kill me in the wet...

[RadiuM]

looks are personal prefference.

myself, 32 looks a shitload better than the 33's, alot more aggressive in its styling.. 33 was when rounded cars were coming into fashion. ergh.

but both are awesome, 33 is obviously newer, larger engine capacity.. i had to go for the 32 even though it was more expensive, (mods+condition) because

A> looks

B> you dont see any on the roads, you'd be lucky to have more than 20 in perth. there's more R's than T's.

Shaun

[Duncan]

Size does matter. Take the 33

[T0nyGTSt]

The 33 has the big 2.5 which is good for screwing out large amounts of horsepower. I have doubts about whether sticking a huge turbo and screwing up the boost on a 2.0 litre motor is all that good.

T.

[akeenan]

r33

[Cubes]

The RB20DET starts to have trouble with lag as soon as you want 200+rwkw.

RB25DET is a much better base for power.

BUT.. I do like the R32 Interior a little better as personally I don't like the dash in the R33's or R34's. They seem a little plain, especially around the glove compartment.

If you don't want to run any quicker than a high 13 or around 190rwkw then a R32 is quick.

Exhaust, FMIC, Boost & a bit of timing she will be quicker than a R8 255LS1 Maloo Manual Ute. Well mine is I found out the other night.

When I say quicker I don't mean just beat him i mean pulling away through every speed and rev range.

RB25DET Turbo and boost to 16psi with a ECU remap will see around MAYBE 190rwkw most probably 180rwkw, honestly i don't know but its some where around there.

180rwkw is required in a R32 to out accelerate a 300kw GTS on a rolling run.

Which for the average joe is plenty.

[Guest INASNT]

Originally posted by -Joel-

RB25DET Turbo and boost to 16psi with a ECU remap will see around MAYBE 190rwkw most probably 180rwkw, honestly i don't know but its some where around there.

i got full zorst, stock turbo, 0.9bar, s-afc, fmic and i got 183kw@wheels!

[akeenan]

i got full zorst, stock turbo, 0.9bar, s-afc, fmic and i got 183kw@wheels!

how many more times do we have to read this

[T0nyGTSt]

0.9 bar a lot for a stock turbo. I run 0.8 and I should turn it down on hot days as soon as I CBF using the EBC.

T.

[inark]

like most ppl who opted for a 32 i do so cause i dont like the R33s awkward shape in stock form... i mean the high back end and low thin front. lines dont flow and its round and bulbous which is why they styled the R34 more on the R32... line flow right thru to the rear and is squarer not rounded.

200rwkw is probably more than i would go to at this point, i would be happy with about 170 or 180... ppl who say they buy the 33s over 32s cause they are newer really crack me.... the whole newer is better thing... even ppl who buy 93 model R33s say this lol on that sort of comment one would think that a 1969 mustang is worse than a 1980s mustang... comes down to preference, age is just something for those that are paranoid and wear nike cause its in fashion.

IMO

[Cubes]

really depends on the FMIC if you have to lower the boost.

Thats the whole Idea of a Bar and Plate for Aussy Conditions.

[Guest INASNT]

Originally posted by tlai909

0.9 bar a lot for a stock turbo. I run 0.8 and I should turn it down on hot days as soon as I CBF using the EBC.

T.

if u have a good fmic your turbo will actually be running at 0.9 bar when u set the bleed, ebc cause with the stock cooler, especially on a hot day u get a huge pressure drop from turbo to intake so the tubo is actually running more then 0.9 bar at times to get 0.9 bar at intake.

and just to prove it i got 165kw@wheels at 0.5 bar when previously i was getting 155kw@wheels at 0.8 with stock cooler!

[Cubes]

ahh ok so obviously the hotter the air the more space it occupies.

Hence pressure drop.

So when it is cooled from the FMIC the temperature change is greater compared to a cooler day.

So the air after the FMIC on a hotter day will be occupying a smaller area compared to that same charge on a cooler day.

Did i kind of make sense.

That is why with a bleeder you get less boost on warmer days compared to more boost when the air is cold and chilled.

Cool air can only be cooled so much I guess where as with the hotter air the heat exchange is better hence more effiecient.

I think thats what i was trying to say ..

Inasnt.. For some reason I've seen so many R33's make much more power once fitted with a FMIC and running the same boost.

With the R32's for some reason they stay around the same power maybe pick up a rwkw or two but nothing like 10 or 15rwkw like the R33's on the same boost.

Could this possibly due to the ecu pulling timing out with the R33's in turn reducing power where as the R32's maybe the ecu isn't as aggressive or the CR causes less pinging?!?!

Any 1?