Ideas For Cheap Stealth Car

[88silhouette]

get a 31

[HR31_RB20DET]

Mistubishi Colt with a 4G63T? (I dunno if they fit)

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Yeah there was one at the Jamboree up here a few years ago running 12's and was also featured in zoom, tight fit though.

[Tangles]

Nissan WGCN34 Stagea's are pretty cheap now!!!! Landed and complied for anything above 12k, dependant on condition obviously.

Huge potential, being skyline based as such..............

[Big Rizza]

I had a think about this and got a few ideas. I already said my 350 chev into a Volvo 240 idea, but here are some more:

E32 BMW 750iL

Purchase Price: Start at under $10k!

This was BMW's flagship car in it's day, and has every luxury feature imaginable. But what is really interesting is under the bonnet. A 5.0 litre V12 churning out 220kw!!! I stole this from autospeed.com:

Once (the) basic breathing mods have been performed, it's up to you what comes next. Tuning parts are available in Germany, but often it's more practical (and cheaper) to execute some custom mods locally. The compression ratio could easily be raised by more than half a ratio (so long as you run PULP at all times) and a more modern programmable management system could be used to maximise power. Problems may be encountered with running the fly-by-wires and other operating systems, however. Heading even more extreme, we've recently seen a BMW V12 stacked with nitrous and another one with a twin-turbo conversion! Power figures are unavailable, but we'd guess that a twin-turbo'd BMW V12 (with a full engine build) could easily generate anywhere up to 400kW. Those people that are extra adventurous may also look into the possibility of fitting the DOHC, 24-valve heads as were fitted to the M1 limited-production racecar (very rare and very, very expensive!).

JZX81 Toyota Chaser

Purchase Price: From about $7k

These might not look like much, but they came with the fabled 1JZGTE as standard!!! This give the car not only huge performance right off the bat, but also huge tuning potential. For about $10k all up you could have a seriously quick weapon and passers by would be none the wiser! The only drawback is that those who want manual transmission might struggle to find them!

Mitsubishi RVR

Purchase Price: Start under $12k

A van with what is essentially Lancer Evolution running gear. All wheel drive and a turbo charged 160kw engine with plenty of mods available in a car that to passers by looks like a regular people mover! Perhaps slap on a front mount 'cooler and get rid of the bonnet scoop for added sleeper appeal.

Saab 9000 turbo

Purchase Price: From about $10k

Comes with a 147kw 2.3 litre turbo engine with a great spread of torque, which gives it decent performance right off the bat. This engine could be modified for 40-50kw more without too much difficulty. Beyond that, the lack of tuning support would likely mean importing from Europe which would get expensive, so it's probably best to leave it to the basic 'cooler, 'zaust, intake style of modification. Being a largish front wheel drive, standing starts wouldnt be the strong point, but you could upset a few people with rolling races on the highway! No one expects to be destroyed by a Saab!

Any Kei car

Purchase price: From under $5k

These little cars only make less than 50kw, but weight is the key! Modifications are cheap as you can use standard parts from bigger cars, ditch the useless back seats, and you've got a seriously good power to weight ratio! These little cars come in numerous configurations from different manufacturers, including turbo all-wheel-drive models. They're never going to beat a worked skyline or commodore, but you can have fun on twisty roads nipping at their heels! Something like the Mitsubishi Minica Dangan ZZ-4 would be awesome. Constant AWD, intercooled turbo, DOHC, full engine management and 5-valve-per-cylinder breathing!!!

Renault Espace

This is Renault's idea of the ultimate sleeper. They took 1 of their espace people movers, and one of their Formula 1 cars, and I think you can see where this is going. The 800 hp V10 gives 0-100km/h in 2.8 seconds and a top speed of over 300km/h! The ultimate sleeper? Perhaps, but the costs involved in building such a machine puts it well and truely out of the scope of our "cheap" stealth car comparison. It's fun to dream though!!

Anyways, there are a few of my ideas. I have more, but I'm sure people are starting to get bored of this lengthy post already. The stagea idea is good too, but as they become more common their sleeper appeal will diminish slightly. But to the unaware they could still be a lot of fun! Other fast sedans like the Galant VR4, Liberty RS etc. are all ideal candidates also.

All I hope is that SOMEONE reads this entire post so that I haven't wasted my time.

Bored now...

Edited November 7, 2005 by Big Rizza

[Mr. Oizo]

What about a VR4?

All wheel drive

Turbo

Very plain looking!

Take off the rear spoiler/badges and you got an old lancer like "thing"!

When the engine or driveline go's bang drop in evo replacements.

Heaps of potential! But cheep!

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[NAman]

You could also try buying a early model Holden (VL, VK etc) and drop an RB engin in or as said previously R31 with an RB25.

All are reasonably cheep cars (bough under 3k)

Engine package, fitment and engineering would be at another 10k max

All would be sleepers and not attract any attention-- until you lite the bags!

Saab 9000 turbo would be an interesting choice...

I though it was a "special" variant of the Mitsubishi RVR that had the evo stuff- something like Mitsubishi "RVR HSGR" Hyper sports gear?

Xspeed in WA was running some interesting times in one for something that looks like a van!

Narr...

Stick with the VR4

cheep/no fuss with compliance or engine conversions

[Mr. Oizo]

NAman, you're correct.

The Hypersports RVR is the one with the EVO gear

[Patto-]

There's a vr4 in my area that looks like a piece of sh1t. It looks shocking, even has black steel rims no hubcaps. Would be an excellent sleeper, but the idiot who owns it has put on the loudest blow-off valve I've ever heard.

Now i'm confused. I thought he was trying to make it a sleeper. But now everyone knows its a turbo, but it still looks like a shitbox. WTF?

But yeah, before the blow off valve was on there, it was an excellent sleeper.

[chaos]

you wouldnt know its turbo if you pulled up beside it at the lights though

this is mine, currently on 260rwhp

[Josh]

hahah I saw a 31 like that here in perth, me and my mate were behind it in his supra not paying much attention to it when it shot off.... we caught up and asked the guy about it - 450hp at the rear wheels... It was f**king fast....

[Big Rizza]

You could always go the Nissan Bluebird SSS with SR20DET AWD instead of the VR4 as there is more SR20 parts back up in Australia IMO.

[Mr. Oizo]

You could always go the Nissan Bluebird SSS with SR20DET AWD instead of the VR4 as there is more SR20 parts back up in Australia IMO.

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Yeah, but the SR20 sounds like a diesel truck that's dropped a cylinder.

[NAman]

You could always go the Nissan Bluebird SSS with SR20DET AWD instead of the VR4 as there is more SR20 parts back up in Australia IMO.

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Aaahhha!!! A true wolf in sheep’s cloth-

Just got to give the wolf some teeth...

and get it through customs.

Didn’t come with a cool digital "heads Up display (HUD)"

But i though we only got the 2.4 FWD????

SR20DET AWD Nissan Bluebird SSS was Japan only?! obviously you have your hands on one of these!

How/where did you pick yours up?

[someonestolecc]

Just get a stock cefiro.

RB20 and noone looks at them twice when they're stock.

[Patto-]

Aaahhha!!! A true wolf in sheep’s cloth-

Just got to give the wolf some teeth...

and get it through customs.

Didn’t come with a cool digital "heads Up display (HUD)"

But i though we only got the 2.4 FWD????

SR20DET AWD Nissan Bluebird SSS was Japan only?! obviously you have your hands on one of these!

How/where did you pick yours up?

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I don't think Rizza has one. Some people import them. Not impossible to find in Australia.

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/in...showtopic=89210

[Big Rizza]

Yeah, but the SR20 sounds like a diesel truck that's dropped a cylinder.

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Surely that makes it even better for a stealth car!!! Just modify the SR20 a bit and it will be ultimate. No one expects a "diesel" to be running 12's

Aaahhha!!! A true wolf in sheep’s cloth-

Just got to give the wolf some teeth...

and get it through customs.

Didn’t come with a cool digital "heads Up display (HUD)"

But i though we only got the 2.4 FWD????

SR20DET AWD Nissan Bluebird SSS was Japan only?! obviously you have your hands on one of these!

How/where did you pick yours up?

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Yes, every Australian Bluebird came with the 112kw KA24DE engine, which is similar to the engine used in the USA spec 180SX (appropriately renamed 240SX to reflect the "upgrade" from CA18 to KA24). The various SR variants were Japan only.

Both the Jap spec and Aus spec models had HUD as an option, but I think it was an expensive one.

And no I don't have one (I have a 32 sedan), but they used to be eligible for import under the old laws, so there are a few around from back then. I had a check on CarSales.com and they had three for sale, so they cannot be too uncommon.

Bluebird 1

Bluebird 2

Bluebird 3

Next year I will be moving out from home, and I will be needing to get a practical automatic car (as i will be living with my girlfriend who drives auto only), and the SR20 bluebird will be high on my list (along with the stagea of course ).

[Cubes]

There used to be an old 82 Mazda 626 running around Adelaide with a buik v6 in it... That would have been an awesome traffic light grand prix'r.

[racsov500]

cant go past a r31, put in any Rb engine (rb26 is more difficult though) leave the stock hubcaps on and the granny sunshade, and no onw will ever know your secret

[racsov500]

holy shit chaos that is nice.. what motor?

and youd be a member of the club

[AMS]

Go the VR4 I say! One of my mates has one, burgandy with around 220 at all four's. Cant go wrong with that. The 4G63T is very mod happy, and his only costed $5000 Landed from Japan a few years back.

But then again, a 31 with say an RB25DET or just an RB30DET from the Vl commo would be fantastic I would love one myself