Daleo

Don't hate us; you used to be one of us...

:rofl2: That's the only drawback I've found with the Stagea Swaybars; they really reduce rear cargo storage space! Especially when you have 27 of them...

Sorry mate; non Nismo ECU owners only. How's your awesome now?

Spotted spoolin12 at the North Ryde mini Stagea meet. The first set of bars is now in his hands.

I picked up all the bars and links today! I'll start packing and posting tomorrow; so hopefully the bulk of them will reach their owners by the weekend. I'll be PM individuals as their orders go in the post; so you can look out for them. Again, thanks everyone for your support; it's been great dealing with true enthusiasts, a real pleasure. Cheers, Dale.

Any more interest guys? 3 fully paid; lets get a couple more!

I just received some part through Import Monster, and they use; http://www.transdirect.com.au/ I did a simulated quote on something I've had quoted before; HEAPS cheaper. Perhaps the monster knows something?

Not included, no. Whiteline don't list them; even for the 350Z. I think it's possible they might be an asset as you start to go really low; you may not be able to get enough adjustment out of the standard arms. Although there have been some very low cars with no mention of them, so I'm unsure. I've actually dealt with that particular trader; he's a great guy, very helpful, no hard sell at all. Maybe contact him for some further info? Cheers, Dale.

I concur.

Yeah not so much on stuff like that, but you probably got that impression from my post. I'm more referring to hamfisted mods with no real forethought, normally structural or braking related. I signed it: don' be hatin'!

If anything; this thread demonstrates what a good job our government has done demonising speeding as an offence. They did exactly the same thing with drink driving (I don't actually have a problem with that though). It's an extremely effective technique; turning the population against "killer speeding criminals". No one has any sympathy, because you brought it on yourself. What crap. No one was injured, no one died; and don't start with the "but it could've happened" because it didn't. I've sped. Plenty of times. And I haven't died once. I'm glad he stood up and had a go; everyone should. Just for the sake of it. Why do you think the average fine is less than a days pay? If it was more; everyone would have a go, on the off chance they might get off. If we had proper driver training, decent roads with sensible speed limits that reflect the improvements in vehicle dynamics over the last 30 years; I'd be willing to bet the OP wouldn't have even been speeding, because the open froad speed limit would likely be 30-40km/h higher. But that's a WHOLE other thread...

Frankly OP; I'm disgusted that you took the easy option. You should've turned yourself in to the nearest police station and demanded that they shoot you dead; on the spot. (For those not paying attention; I'm being sarcastic) What do we have a legal system for; if you can't pay your money and take your chances? The magistrate could've just as easily gone in the complete opposite direction; found him guilty, enforced the maximum penalty and the maximum fine. He didn't; obviously he decided there was merit in the actions of the OP and adjusted the penalty accordingly. OP didn't get off scot free; but he's not an axe murderer either.

Signed. Don't really have much sympathy for non engineered mods, but Mike Rann is a douche, and SA state govt seems to hate anyone who likes any kind of motorised vehicle, with no real justification. As you say; it's often the thin edge of the wedge with this kind of profiteering, and dopey mum & dad voters love it when enthusiasts get kicked, so these laws often get in under the "If you're not doing anything wrong; you've got nothing to worry about" tagline. The problem then comes when there are no clearly defined parameters for the legislation; i.e."Hoon" legislation; and it can be abused really easily. Once it makes a bit of cash; it spreads... The next thing you know; the same beige, weak arses that cheered when it was introduced; will find their own "P"' plate kids are getting done for non event defects on their parents cars. Then it's all "Derp, derp, derp, my little Johnny, derp, derp, derp, how can I afford this?" F##k 'em.

Looks like the guys that did your exhaust have started producing; http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/NISSAN-STAGEA-250T-RS4-M35-TURBO-DUMP-FRONT-PIPE-/330566818023?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item4cf75158e7 Looks nice, maybe a bit of a tight bend off the back of the turbo though. The split dump might make it a bit of a PITA to wrap, did you have yours coated or wrapped? What were they charging for the rest of the system?

Lol dude, get that thing up the top of the window... Now you can has big brakes?

Wheels look good mate, definitely suits the black; but did Stevie Wonder put on your rego sticker?

How exclusive...

No worries, I'd have expected everyone would be sick of hearing me bang on about sway bars by now... Chris; I'll have them on Monday night; so any time after that is fine. I'll call you on Monday. Cheers, Dale.

No worries, I'd have expected everyone would be sick of hearing me bang on about sway bars by now... Chris; I'll have them on Monday night; so any time after that is fine.

If you do fit some fog lights, and decide to sell your aero kit blanking plates, let me know; I'll buy 'em. Cheers, Dale.

Thanks for the payments guys; you know who you are. You all have PM's Let's get a couple more, then i can place the order. The sooner we have 5; the sooner I can order; the sooner you can have your bars. Cheers, Dale.

I'd park there, and when I got a fine; take photo's of the clearly vandalised sign, and present that as evidence. Rude B'stards!

For sure, the weight of our car precludes the type of handling you can achieve with a much lighter car in tight corners or quick transitions. That's just physics. On faster, constant radius stuff, I think you can sometimes do better. In more open, constant radius stuff, I think you'll be truly amazed at the difference. Pre Sway Bars; On the limit, mine would lean heavily on the outside front wheel, feeling like it was on tippy toes; overloading that tyre and pushing the front wide. Also it made the rear feel really twitchy if I started to back off to bring the front in to line. If you got on the throttle and the car came on boost whilst turning (I have a rear LSD) it would also want to immediately run very wide. Neither situation inspires confidence, and I just didn't really go looking for those last few tenths. It was better to just run really neutral throttle in the corner and then get on it once it was straight. I was also cheating a little with my damping; running stiffer in the front to minimise weight transfer on turn in; otherwise the car felt quite floaty as you turn in. The downside of that is of course you exacerbate the understeer, as the car doesn't follow contours as well. Post Sway Bars; As i turn in; you can literally feel the car "hunker down" as the bars resist the roll, which squares the outside front tyre against the road. It really feels like the car digs into the road; I can't really describe it any other way. I don't experience the understeer anymore and in fact, as you apply more throttle approaching the apex (which I could never do prior) It actually transitions to a light oversteer bias on corner exit! If I get on the throttle hard in a really tight corner it will still understeer, which is fairly normal in a heavy car with an LSD, but if I load the car up on entry, it will kick the tail out on exit as it comes on boost every time. I should point out all of these things happen at MUCH higher speeds than before uprating the Sway Bars. The biggest change I had to make to my driving style to accommodate the newfound oversteer bias, was to resist winding on excessive opposite lock; it's better to let the torque split take care of it, apply a small amount of lock and the car will just straighten as the fronts get some drive. With a wheelful of lock; when the fronts get drive; the car will go exactly where the wheels are pointed; snapping the car back the other way, as if I'd overcorrected. I've also been able to wind the damping right out on my BC BR's, to fully soft as I no longer need the stiffness to prevent the weight transfer on turn in. This makes the suspension more supple over bumpier roads and provided better grip in corners. The car feels so much more secure and confidence inspiring with the bars on; it just encourages you to utilise the extra capability, and you can have faith the car will behave the same every time. Others may have found diferent pro's and con's after fitting Sway Bars; as driving styles and preferences vary wildly, and Bar set up will also change the balance and behaviour of the car. On my 30mm adj front, and 24mm adj rear; I'm currently running stiffest of three (front hole) on the front and middle of three (centre hole) on the rear, so my settings will not equate on the Whitelines, due to the difference in bar diameters but the overall effect is very similar, as I experienced a very similar feel when Jules (Paramour) was kind enough to let me drive his AXIS fitted with Whitelines. Sorry about the monstrous post, but it's difficult to convey the improvement in just a few lines, and frankly, it's exactly the reason I've been so passionate about getting them; so everyone can have a car that handles as well as mine. Cheers, Dale.

Get in touch with Chris Rogers on the forum; he's your man.

No worries Leon, I'm looking forward to getting them out; then everyone can have corner smashing beasts!