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Well guys, I want IGN cut and launch control, but the have discontinued the production of the Powerfc Pro.

What are my options now? Are they making them a standard feature of the standard powerfc in the near future or something?

Can anyone help?

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are you seeing issues with fuel cut instead of ign cut?

you could get a 3rd party bee*r rev limiter which i think can support launch control similar to what you are thinking. otherwise try and buy an rb25det1pro 2nd hand from someone, or you could try and email nengun?

the fc pro still exists for er34 however

nah, just want launch control.

As for nengun, they said its been stopped and not to ask for them.

I just want to know what they are going ot replace the powerfc pro with.. Maybe they'll make those features standard with the next generation of powerfc?

i dont think there will be any new power FC model released. in fact one day they may stop making them alltogether. From what i have seen and been told Apexi (now Apexera) is not in good shape. they did not even have a stand at this years Tokyo Autosalon...

I wouldn't be suprised if they really were struggling as a business.

The PFC is a good example of a product that has had bugger all development in recent years.

It's still a good product in my books, but if the company (APEX, APEXi, APEXERA or whatever they call themselves now) was serious about the product they would at least have foreign language (at least English) manuals for all versions.

Oh year - the handcontroller design and lighting really is something out of the 1980s!!

Edited by Gav

From what I have seen all the standalone launch controllers/rev limiters are all hard cut limiters i.e cut all spark or cut all fuel as opposed to a/m ecus which (some) have a soft cut feature.

I can gather the negative side of a hard cut fuel limiter but what, if any complications would a hard cutting ignition limiter possibly cause to an engine?

  • 6 months later...

ive just realised why the pro model doesnt exist.

the pro versions were based on the older FCC1 layout.

much like what the ap engineering versions use.

it must need to use the older chipset/firmware for some reason.

basically the cpu used isnt in production anymore so apexi brought all the remaining stock (likely) and have had to discontinue the production.

perhaps it was too much developemt to make it work on the new chipset/firmware or they couldnt for some reason.

Yes Apexi isn't even having a D1 car this year.

What i wanna know is will a fuel cut damage your engine or not?

they havnt run a d1 car in the japan now for 2years (if i remember right) i remember reading or watching somewhere.. they said we are going to foucs on the america market from now on

shit yeah it will damage it

thats a load of crap.

Ignition cut will do more damage than fuel cut.

Fuel cut cuts the injector on its next cycle thus no fuel at all being in the cylinder. How can that damage it?

And don't say that "It will lean out"

Becuase if injectors can't cut fast enough then they are stuffed. They seem to be accurate enough at high rpm... So why would they lean if told to cut...

thats a load of crap.

Ignition cut will do more damage than fuel cut.

Fuel cut cuts the injector on its next cycle thus no fuel at all being in the cylinder. How can that damage it?

And don't say that "It will lean out"

Becuase if injectors can't cut fast enough then they are stuffed. They seem to be accurate enough at high rpm... So why would they lean if told to cut...

So drive yore car on the limiter for a while and see how long it lasts ! Ive seen the melted pistons this

causes ! Ignition cut is definately better and you get the bonus of lots of bangs and flames ! :blink:

So drive yore car on the limiter for a while and see how long it lasts ! Ive seen the melted pistons this

causes ! Ignition cut is definately better and you get the bonus of lots of bangs and flames ! :(

thats just a dumb ass thing to do.

Do you hold yours flat and on the rev limiter for long periods of time?

Is the invisible fuel the isn't going into the cylinder because the injector is off going to melt the pistons?

thats just a dumb ass thing to do.

Do you hold yours flat and on the rev limiter for long periods of time?

Is the invisible fuel the isn't going into the cylinder because the injector is off going to melt the pistons?

Actually i did use to, when i first took my 99 sti to the race track and found out it speed cut at 180 kmh which was cutting of the fuel and yes it did melt a couple of pistons ! And yes it was a dumb ass thing to do ! Also micro tech ecu have function you can set up as a launch control.

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