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Oh and like Liz says once you start working out you will loose inches off the waist line but you weight might go up. I fit way smaller clotes now but my weight has started to go up again and that is due to composition issue Liz was talking about! Find a scale that can give you a body fat percentage

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i just got pasta today cose its my fav style... thats like once a week... normally subway. Nothing wrong with subway is there?? I get the wheat bread and the usual BMT materials in it....

And Bunta, soft drinks are the worst for you in regards to putting on weight... but what about Coke Zero?

My brother's school got rid of all coke products and they only sell coke zero now... thats wat i call FAT CONTROL

i just got pasta today cose its my fav style... thats like once a week... normally subway. Nothing wrong with subway is there?? I get the wheat bread and the usual BMT materials in it....

And Bunta, soft drinks are the worst for you in regards to putting on weight... but what about Coke Zero?

My brother's school got rid of all coke products and they only sell coke zero now... thats wat i call FAT CONTROL

HAHAHAHAHAH FAT CONTROL!

im soo against coke zero..

i need my coke hit :)

yea im hitting the weights as well found this hole of a GYM to pump weights with the other possers (wankers checking themselves out in the mirror)

kero

would love to come to footy but you know me

lazy and every saturday im hungover

but i will come to one game so i can go to the end of year party and get nasty

There is a number of things that are essential for losing wait

1. Energy Used > Energy taken in - this is a big one that alot of people don't actually take into account - look at what you are eating.. don't eat a pack of chips.. have some fruit.. make dinner yourself, don't buy anything takeaway.. make your lunch, don't buy it.. atleast that way you know what's going into you..

try cutting your daily intake by 1/3rd and see how you go..

try not to crash diet as well.. change the way you think about what you eat, when you eat.. and in the long run it will benefit you..

2. Exercise.. as they say without both Dieting + Exercise you won't achieve what you want..

Start off slow.. than build up - for the first 30mins when running your body is mainly using up available energy stores.. not stored fats (which is what you want to burn up)..

Change where you run.. don't just do the same track.. add some hills.. stairs.. Make sure you stretch before and after as well..

If going to the gym, more reps < weight is for toning.. also change your exercise, doing the same thing your body becomes used to it and doesn't lose weight.. heavy weights < reps will just bulk you up - but won't neccessarily lose much weight.. although more muscle mass - higher your metabilism.. remember if you become lazy you'll put the fat back on as your muscle mass reduces and you keep eating the same amount of food!!!

Majority of weight lost in the beginning is water.. it takes time to actually start losing fat vs. water storage..

- cut out all the sugar you normally have.. coke zero - pepsi max have no sugar and have caffeine boosting your metabilism..

also - stay motivated.. find someone else to do it with.. have a target and keep positive.. you fluctuate.. and always will.. you get sick, stop running goes up.. than you drop again as you get back into it..

Good luck to everyone..

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i just got pasta today cose its my fav style... thats like once a week... normally subway. Nothing wrong with subway is there?? I get the wheat bread and the usual BMT materials in it....

Be very careful with what you order/buy/eat. Always read the ingredients and nutrional information. This is particularly true of food labelled as diet, or more suspiciously, "no fat", "no sugar", etc. Whilst its great there is more emphasis on low fat foods, that all comes to naught if the foodstuff is full of sugar; this is why lollies aren't 'good for you' even though they often have low or no fat. The reverse is also true: i.e. just because something is low in sugar doesn't mean it isn't crammed full of fat. Advertisers are obviously going to focus on the positives of their products, so again, read all the information available. You'll be suprised at the variation. Just as an example of the top of my head, Yoplait No Fat yoghurt has no fat (well, less than 1%) and is about 45-50 calories per 100g; some competing no fat yoghurts have 3-to-4 times the amount of calories.

Also be extremely careful with McDonalds / Subway / etc. Subway's ads give the apperience that all their food is about low-fat, low-suger, wholesome goodness. If you actually check out their nutrional information you'll be suprised just how full of fat, sugar and salt some of their food is: Subway nutrional info (select australia or download the PDF version). Compare the Italian BMT with one of the subs with 6 grams of fat or less. You're looking about between 3-4 more fat in the Italian BMT and 5-8 times the amount of saturated fats. Its calorific content and salt levels are about 1.5 times greater than most of the 6 gram subs.

Having said all of that, don't deny yourself some pleasures as you're more likely to drop off a "diet" (I hate that word), although personally I find it easier to deny myself treats than to try and control my intake of them :thumbsup: I also think you can got OTT on the eating programmes: every month there seems to be a new 'don't eat X, its bad for you, eat Y instead' campaign be it red meat, omega 3, etc, etc. I frequently hear new gym members being sworn of carbohydrates as if it would kill them; screw that, I eat pasta, rice and potatos all the time and most people whinge I'm too thin :P Its all about moderation and balance.

anyway for a laugh i went to weight watchers with the young lady

i was the only bloke there out of 30 poeple

gold

anyway weighted in for the first time at 131.4kg (of man love)

seems to work after two weeks

ive just gone for a walk everymorning with the dog and maybe some weights in the afternoon

anyway im just putting this up to see how it goes

week zero 131.4 (accumulated)

week one 128.4 (3kgs) total kegs 3kgs less man love

week two 126.3 (2.1kgs) total kegs 5.1kgs less man love

week three

week four

week five

week six

week seven

seek eight

oh and lets not get too off topic here.. this thread is about how much of a legend fatz is!

NICE WORK PETE!

Hey Pete. We gunna have to call you skinz if you keep going that way. Good onya mate.

I'm back to 115kg from 120 in the last month myself but 3 years crippled and in pain tends to make you concentrate on not doing exercise. I used to fill in at 100kg playing Rugby, but for a decade I was a "elite Athlete" cycling with the AIS. Geez, I even picked up a sliver medal at the nationals and weight control meant riding a couple of extra hundred kays a week, anywhere from 600-900. I get to start riding again tomorrow (if the Melb weather is not too shit...yeah hello??) and the bike is hiding and shakin' in the garage.

Anyways mate, you gotta do it for the right reasons and you'll drop all you need to. Just remember what motivates you (not beeer and punching on...) and you'l be there in no time.

Thumbs up man.

you all have very good points... Italian BMT is not the best, I know... but ah well, you gota treat urself well sometimes.

i need to eat fruit more tho thats one of my main problems.

The scary part is the fact that the first 30mins or so running, you are only using up your temporary fat/energy =( I guess I'm gona extened my running to an hour now.

The scary part is the fact that the first 30mins or so running, you are only using up your temporary fat/energy =( I guess I'm gona extened my running to an hour now.

That depends how hard you run. I do 30 minute runs all the time and usually cover 7-8km; the machine reakons thats about 500-ish calories. You want to do at least 20 minutes of sustained exercise that raises your heatrate a couple of times a week. Don't try and flog yourself to death once a week for two hours because you are more likely to wear yourself out than anything else.

Also remember there are two goals with exercise: the first and most obvious is weight loss, but the second often overlooked benefit is increasing your cardiovascular fitness. Although you'll find things easier as a result of weight loss (less to move, less fat clogging your arteries, etc), if you push you heartrate up for a sustained period you are basically exercising your cardiovascular system by making your heart stronger, increasing lung capacity, etc. Most of the cardio machines have an explanation of how it works, but basically if you can at about 60-65% of your max heatrate you are in the fatburning zone, if you go at about 75% your in the cardiovascular training zone.

That depends how hard you run. I do 30 minute runs all the time and usually cover 7-8km; the machine reakons thats about 500-ish calories. You want to do at least 20 minutes of sustained exercise that raises your heatrate a couple of times a week. Don't try and flog yourself to death once a week for two hours because you are more likely to wear yourself out than anything else.

Also remember there are two goals with exercise: the first and most obvious is weight loss, but the second often overlooked benefit is increasing your cardiovascular fitness. Although you'll find things easier as a result of weight loss (less to move, less fat clogging your arteries, etc), if you push you heartrate up for a sustained period you are basically exercising your cardiovascular system by making your heart stronger, increasing lung capacity, etc. Most of the cardio machines have an explanation of how it works, but basically if you can at about 60-65% of your max heatrate you are in the fatburning zone, if you go at about 75% your in the cardiovascular training zone.

what I do these days is go for about a half hour run around my area, I preffer not to use a treadmill. Same effort throughout the run. Up hills I will usually go a bit harder and wouldnt slow down for a breather. But I will never stop running (unless something outside my control happens) until I'm finished.

Its hard, but shit, you feel so damn good afterwards every time and you sleep like a baby! Thats a true benefit =) Plus it stops me from going out after work to stupid cafes just eating/drinking and wasting un-necessary money and putting on fat.

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