What do we all do???

[Boostzor]

Hahhahaha nice 1 Troy.

Im doing the same thing too but getting paid a little bit more and get a free car. Slow and steady.

$1700 for health insurance better be worth it.

Oh and now i get access to the coffee machine, mmm real coffee.

[32vspecII]

i do IT

its truly shit. After the days of earning 80, 90 , 100$ an hour It just grates on you having to work in perth for shitty wages . I just cant get interested doing anything for less than a 7 figure income . Why should I live with all the hassle and stess , gaining knowledge and cirtifications , working long hours and late nights when someone with earns 2-3 times what you do for digging holes .

If your in IT get out , its only going to get worse , held desks in india , operating systems a chimp can use , plug and play everything . get out now while you still can .

[Boostzor]

yeh i can use these operating systems hella good....... oh wait.

Could always move to Dubai or UAE arkon. I hear they pay good money for professionals.

Its just too easy to sit at a desk and ride the wave of ppl who think its easy money. That wave crashed in 01

[JH32]

i do IT  

its truly shit. After the days of earning 80, 90 , 100$ an hour It just grates on you having to work in perth for shitty wages . I just cant get interested doing anything for less than a 7 figure income . Why should I live with all the hassle and stess , gaining knowledge and cirtifications , working long hours and late nights when someone with earns 2-3 times what you do for digging holes .

no worries bill gates

why dont you go back to digging holes if sitting at a desk is so bad

[skyzerr33]

my wave has risen 13% 2 years ago and 18% this month i think its easy money.

[Boostzor]

Yeh if uve been there for a while but try finding a job in IT now with no XP, kinda difficult.

Oh yeh and digging holes does blow ive had enuff of that but it paid the bills while at uni, be a plumber they can charge what they like

U get home in the evening and ure body is tired but ure brain is not, now days i get home and my brain is fried and my body is all rilled up. Well waht can u do, maybe dig hole in the mornings and crunch numbers in the arvos, hmmmm what job lets u do that??? geologist?

[skyzerr33]

nah be a gyno

u'll enjoy it more

[RadiuM]

damn, i havent gotten into pharmacology. Still a developer.

But I am now a contracter for 2 firms

echidnaweb where I work at home 2 days per week, and

Market United which is 3 days per week at the old swan brewery. cool place to work

Shaun

[32vspecII]

im not really going to be digging holes it was just a metaphor . there are lots of jobs currently that are considered "below" IT yet they earn so much more . For instance while building a house a guy came to cable the phone lines into the house . he ran 2 cables from the telstra connection in the meterbox , across the open frame roof , down the wall into the spot where the phone jack would go . He charges $143 and telstra pay him about 50-60 . for 20mins max work , aproximately $600 per hour . Yet I am supposed to do a much more difficult job for what 60k in perth ?

and dont tell me he has to work hard , he doesnt even climb a ladder , theres no ceiling or roof yet . he connects 2 cables ! The worst that happens is it rains and he gets a bit wet .

anyway if your happy or whatever then good for you . its a case of dont miss what you dont know and if you didnt get the high wages youll probably think IT is pretty good even now . But just remember that IT is an industry in decline , globabally and consistantly . The nature of the technology means that inevetibly its costs are driven down and that means your wages . It is not an industry with a future 99% of its fields .

[Boostzor]

Yeh but he has to drive to and from the job, supply his own tools etc etc and telstra pays him per job not per hour so if a job takes longer then he doesnt get paid more. Still i get what your saying. Seems telstra/fox come out with a new product every 5 mins that needs install just o keep em busy, pft waht can u do.

[25GTT]

Health = the new IT job for 05, plain and simple... seriosuly guys, do a bit of research and look around you.... advertising is now all aimed at Health... before advertising was "this computer for this much, or gain this qualification for this IT diploma" now advertising is "low fat, low carb, look good, feel healthy, diet this don't diet that... blah blah blah.... its evrywhere... even mcdonalds is promoting health!!" I work in a gym and even I am sick of it!! The whole westernised civilisation is so focused on health & looking good right now its unbeleivable!

Damn it even troy is a member of a gym!!!!!!!!

No surprise though that some people who do IT don't leave there chair they have no need do then start seeing health problems later on from inactivity in life.....

Anyway thats enough health talk for now :-)

P.S of course the majority of the people on here will be IT, who else can find time in their day besides IT people whilst the windows install takes 20 mins of thinking time of which you charge the customer...... ahahaha remember i was in IT for 5 years aswell! ahahah! easy money but damn there was no motivation!

[JH32]

anyway if your happy or whatever then good for you . its a case of dont miss what you dont know and if you didnt get the high wages youll probably think IT is pretty good even now

I'm still confused. If you're earning 60k now and you used to earn at least 100, then why complain about being in IT?

And I know plenty of people earning at least 100k in IT so it's not that bad an industry? :confused:

[Nizmo]

Lauren - Adminstation Assistant for Internationation Trade & Investment Div of the Department of Industry and Resources  

Translation Govt Shitkicker  

Before i worked in car industry for 4 years!

Farkkk that was a long time ago!! Remember those days Dan - before the health kick - west perth lunchs

Then i went to the WA Turf Club ..... hated that

Now I work for Big Rock Toyota - Fleet Services Coordinator. Plus I work at the Races selling membership on Saturdays ..... and im still poor But least Im back doing what i enjoy

[tigeryas]

This isnt great news for someone that's doing Bachelor of Computer and Math Science as a degree ... but hell, I'd be happy with a wage anywhere near 60k...

Oh, and what do i do? Yeah, the above... 3rd yr, IT Systems and Chinese as my majors.

P.S. I am not Chinese. Fcuk it's a hard language to learn though.

[ix9]

arkon,

On the contrary mate - IT is still in a climb, not a decline! The techie services and computer hardware is definitely on the way down again, I mean look at all the uni chumps that charge $20/hour to fix your computer. Decent money for them, but that said they may only work 5-6 "real" hours a week. Hence thier shit wage.

I started in IT when I was 18, and now my wage has almost tripled from back then. That said I'm no longer a "consultant" and now a manager and have my own staff. That's where the money is. I fork out bulk $$$ in software development costs just to keep our company moving forward with the rapid changes.

And sure, you can go earn $80-$100/hour contracting in the eastern states for your time, but hell that's the only benefit of 3-6month contracts! Perth pays a LOT less for IT work over here - that's proven itself time and time again. I have more than enough cash to survive, play with my car and party hard so that keeps me happy.

As for digging holes for more money - Yeah probably. But really, I know i'd much rather be sitting at my desk all day than running around like a tradesmen site-to-site doing manual labour! Blech!

[Boostzor]

maybe u can figure out why that crazy chinese guy on ebay gave me a strike..............oh right i didnt pay him and told him to shove it, i think the translator got that one through.

Yeh true, we havent exactly got a wide audience here, not like a hole digger is gonna go press refersh every 20 mins on his wireless laptop.

[ix9]

This isnt great news for someone that's doing Bachelor of Computer and Math Science as a degree ... but hell, I'd be happy with a wage anywhere near 60k...

Oh crap, when will you young kids learn that just because you goto uni you'll jump straight into a 60k job! Get real! It ain't gonna happen, you'll still be a 21-22yo with NO real world experience. You'd be lucky to start off as a helpdesk jockey on 28k/year!

*Reality check pls!*

[GWP021]

damn ill take help desk jockey i spent just as long learnin my trade as most uni students and just cause we work with our hands everyone looks down their noses at us and expects us to earn less

oh im a QUALIFIED roof plumber i work for a small company in mandurah

[JH32]

at the end of the day ... who cares what everyone else earns !

its nobody's business what i earn except my own.

same goes for everyone else ... so why bother argue about it !

[damono]

I think IT is still constant.. you just cant get stuck in a job where your not learning anything. I was in one before, but now im in IT for defence, learning a heap more.. so the money thing is really offset by what you learn while your doing the job (plus the pay is better)