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I like the performance but I don't like the look and overall 'boatness' of the Commodore.

Basically I want the LS2 engine in a good sporty chassis

So basically I want a Corvette. :(

Fnark that.

Elfin MS8 Clubman.

I think the new look was a good move. Although as said before, when i first saw it i instantly thought big astra. Definitely looks better than the other models.

The fact is though, give it 1.5 - 2yrs, and they'll be running the roads like ants on their way to a jam doughnut. They'll be commercial vehicles. They'll be used for government vehicles, business vehicles, cop cars, rent cars etc etc then every fourth man and his dog will have one.

In saying that though, if ever needed a big car to drag stuff around in i'd probably get a commodore or an xr6t, and be just like every other shmuck....

EDIT: spelling

Edited by KeyMakeR33

Well i garuntee they will out handle any old stock skyline, and be faster.

Also built better.

Skylines have pretty average quality plastics and fix and finish. Espicially on the R34's.

People here are so dumb they love skylines so much.

They are saying dynamically the comodore is better than a 5 series bmw.

Well the VE's were benchmarked against the old BMW M5. According to many BMW owners the old BMW's were (dynamically) better than the current BMW's.

I wouldnt say better but it should be pretty close, maybe not comfort wise.

They are saying dynamically the comodore is better than a 5 series bmw.
Well i garuntee they will out handle any old stock skyline, and be faster.

Also built better.

Skylines have pretty average quality plastics and fix and finish. Espicially on the R34's.

People here are so dumb they love skylines so much.

They are saying dynamically the comodore is better than a 5 series bmw.

i beat a 307 kw r8 4 times on the "private" street , I was expecting to get a fight but it was an easy win everytime

and I would take my stock 33 gtr with 4wd on a track where handling was required any day of the week over a 2 ton rwd v8

:huh:

Ha it weighs about 200 kg more than your skyline.

And remember a GTR was designed for the track, with the ability to be on road.

Where as comodores are road cars that can do quite well on the track.

Well i garuntee they will out handle any old stock skyline, and be faster.
Ha it weighs about 200 kg more than your skyline.

And remember a GTR was designed for the track, with the ability to be on road.

Where as comodores are road cars that can do quite well on the track.

Yeah that was a nice backflip wasnt it. :huh:

but i thought you said it would outhandle my "old stock skyline, and be faster"

i have had more problems with xr6ts and they fill the large sports sedan requirements equaly as good as the ve

Edited by arkon

The VE's are ugly, way to 'waste' a billion Holden. The Walkinshaw title cannot be claimed by that green machine. The Walkinshaws aerodynamic kit was developed in a proper wind tunnel in the UK and is suppose to be one awesome aero package at that.

I'll never buy a V8. Did you know only 4 of the cylinders work in the VS's and older, its true..... The other 4 KILL BABIES.

Well being a Commodore owner, it really hasn't changed my view on them. lol

I'm more of a fan of the VB-VL anyway, but the VE is a nice looking car. (Better then the VYs-VZs)

I would love to have a drive of one and a 13 second 1/4 for a big family sedan is really moving and from what I've heard, around the track they're not bad either.

I like Commodores, but there are better cars around.

Edited by RyanVLSL
I was more or less talking about gts-t, gt-t compared to SS's. Or gts, vs an omega comodore, etc, etc

Sorry i should of been more specific.

Well in that case you are comparing a vehicle made in 1998 and earlier with a vehicle made in 2006, 2007.

I have no doubt the interior has improved beyond what was around in 1998.

Take a look at the highest spec V36 Skyline (350GT Type-SP) though for about the same money in Japan (Y3.8million - $39,800rrp before options) as a SV6 commodore ($39,900rrp before options). These are a better comparo.

Both are large 4 door RWD cars with V6 NA motors at around the same price.

V36 Skyline sedan is 4.75m long

Holden is 4.89m

V36 Sklyine sedan is 1.77m wide

Holden is 1.89m wide

V36 Skyline weighs 1600kg

Holden weighs 1735kg (auto)

V36 Skyline develops 232kw @ 6800rpm from 3498cc

Holden develops 195kw @ 6500rpm from 3564cc

V36 Skyline develops 358Nm of torque @ 4500rpm

Holden develops 340Nm peak torque @ 2600rpm. The Holden actually develops about 20Nm more torque at 2600rpm than the Skyline

V36 Skyline has leather interior standard for that price

Holden charge $2500 extra for leather

V36 Skyline sunroof option - $989

Holden sunroof option - $1690

V36 Sat Nav - Standard

Holden sat nav - $1290

V36 Skyline Fuel Economy - 11.4 litres/100KM

Holden - 11.3 litres/100KM

Too bad we won't see them here for a couple of years and if we did Nissan would be forced to increase the price due to duty by 10% and charge 10% tax then realistically it's a 50,000 AUD+ car.

This comparison is valid for domestic vs. domestic markets though and shows what other domestic markets are getting for their $40k and frankly we're getting shafted.

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