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Hi guys,

Was just wondering why some people have NA Skylines... I mean, it's a Skyline... known for it's power etc.... why NA, there must be a reason... as there's like 60% NA out there and 40% Turbo... was just wondering why... is there some reason?

No offense intended... as I know there must be some reason to this.

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Eug Grand Master

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mean, it's a Skyline... known for it's power etc.

you need to look into the "etc" that you typed...

simply put, some people want a hassle free car:

- that handles well

- looks decent

- cheap on fuel & maintenance

- isn't prone on blowing turbos & spinning big end bearings. (will most likely never need a rebuild)

- relatively low km (compared to aust. delivered cars of the same year)

- has slightly more power than the average daily driver

- has a wide range of parts available (brakes, turbo, bodykits, suspension parts, etc.)

- can still drive to the shops/uni/work and yet be able to take to the track

- has potential to be something crazy with all the conversions and parts floating around

you might not know, but looking at some of the specs of the cars in this section - there are definitely a few that would give some stock/mild gtsts a run for their money through the motorkhanas, hill climbs, tight tracks and twisties. as cool as it is to make 200rwkw and run low figures down the quarter, some people prefer events where a larger degree of driver input and skill is required.

no offense taken... some people just make do with what funds they have available, or they are sure on what they want to achieve. how many people do you see that make 300rwkw, only to find that they hit the local cruise spots? it's the same as asking a gtst owner why they didn't buy a gtr (despite the fact that we all know gtrs are money pits).

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how about a first car?

its a good amount of power for a first time driver yet still has the looks and feel of a "sportscar" :domokun:

I myself am the proud new owner of an N/A Skyline which is my first car, before i get the "daddy's boy" comments ive spent 3 years working every weekend to earn it and am paying for it 100%.

with the new qld road laws coming it will be a fairly safe option due to the forced induction rules.

reliability??

smurf80 Experienced

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Ive gone from a turbo 33 to a NA 34 four door. My reasons for this are stated mainly in eug's reply. Maintenance is cheaper its cheaper to fuel etc. My 33 was clean tidy and had the power to go with it but when you realise house prices are going up and you are looking for a house you realise you need to get rid of it to save money. It was either this or a commodore and beleive me im glad I decided to stick with a skyline.

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R TUNE

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buying a first car that is n/a is not consided daddys boy but hey a n/a car is good to start on.

why do you think you see so many p plate drivers crash who own s13-14 or 180sx that are turbo.

becasue they coudn't controll the power that they had.

Eug Grand Master

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buying a first car that is n/a is not consided daddys boy but hey a n/a car is good to start on.

why do you think you see so many p plate drivers crash who own s13-14 or 180sx that are turbo.

becasue they coudn't controll the power that they had.

correct... i have driven other turbo nissans with more than 3x the power level i have - and i'd have to say that driving in an NA car in and amongst the turbo cars makes you a better driver. while force induced cars are oh so sweet, a lot of new owners tend to automatically think they are "fast".

in an underpowered car you're constantly trying to keep up and honing your skills, trying to extract seconds here and there... not to mention that you can spend more energy in getting the right lines and steering control than worrying that your right foot is going to spin you off the road.

the best mod you can do is driver improvement.

SKiT_R31 Experienced

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Three Quarters of the skylines i come accross, 33's and 34's (32's dont even rate unless they've had plenty of work done) i easily chop, i have people in there 33's with the usual mods 3" exhaust, FMIC etc pull up beside me and laugh, only to be left in the rear view mirror, that is until i reach speed limit and just cruise with my lumpy exhaust, and then they boost past like hero's.

I aggree, N/A cars make you a better driver, they sound insane, and with my pizzly 151kw (compared to hi po turbos 100kw more) is oohhh so much more enjoyable, the torque pulling you back, engine roaring, turbo cars just dont feel as good, ive been in and driven PLENTY, they just dont rate for drivability and enjoyment, after driving a turbo car for about ~ 10 mins, i get bored of it, thats why people who drive turbo's i assume are always looking for more power.

Dont get me wrong, im looking for more power, but im more than satisfied with what i have, every day the sound and feel give me a grin, effortless movement (whats lag!?) low end torque - 1500rpm in top gear at 70 clicks up hill, engine throbbing away, minimal acceleration.

But also, not everyone drives skylines to be fast, there are millions of other reasons, at the end of the day they are a good looking, reasonably safe and solid, reliable, comfortable, economical car.

would you prefer to drive an N/A skyline, or a commodore?

btw i dont count, im in a 31 manual Ti, short geared, light, crazy handling [low and stiff, up-down and accross] full luxury (velour, full electrics etc) and i cant think of a better car as a daily :P

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thorpe84 Proficient

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why na skylines? what a stupid question

ALOT cheaper

p-plate restrictions for turbos

insurance is f**king STUPID for a turbo

more reliable

cost less to repair

drink less fuel

more practical

last year in may i payed $11,000 for a 96 series 2 r33 NA in mint condition, even came with an alpine deck and original flare WOOoo!, i was also the first owner in australia.

in comparison the turbo series 1 m specs were going for 14-17 and series 2 15-19.

for me and i imagine alot of people, i had no choice

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why na skylines? what a stupid question

ALOT cheaper

p-plate restrictions for turbos

insurance is f**king STUPID for a turbo

more reliable

cost less to repair

drink less fuel

more practical

last year in may i payed $11,000 for a 96 series 2 r33 NA in mint condition, even came with an alpine deck and original flare WOOoo!, i was also the first owner in australia.

in comparison the turbo series 1 m specs were going for 14-17 and series 2 15-19.

for me and i imagine alot of people, i had no choice

I don't think the question is that stupid. Look at the range on answers ! :)

For me, after owning turbo Skyline's for the last 10+ years, I decided that I don't need 200rwkw to get from one set of traffic lights to the next ( or from one speed camera to the next :action-smiley-069: ) Plus, think about all the things you don't need to spend $'s on if you own an N/A: Boost Controller, Boost Gauge, FMIC, Oil Cooler, Turbo Timer, BOV, etc, etc.

The only time I miss the turbo is when I need to pass someone "quick". Other than that, I'm getting used to the whole N/A lifestyle :thumbsup:

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Why N/A? Well it was my first car 7 years ago, and now the reason is because it sounds like this....http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/jswright/Drive%20by.mp3 Love the look on peoples faces when they hear it :P

More noise here Visit My Website

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