Commodores Strike Again

[Guilt-Toy]

Another street racing accident in sydney - 2 commodores smash into a elderly couple.

"Witness Wade Watson told The Daily Telegraph two Commodores which were racing braked so hard their tyres exploded. "

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,22156486-1702,00.html

[sh@un]

braking so hard the tyres exploded?

lmao- dun think so, but must have been right down to the belts if its true

[ctjet]

Wade Watson...?

LOL

[ztuned]

not enough emphasis on the commodores IMO

[mad082]

ban young drivers from driving commodores!!!

[Guilt-Toy]

Pic available here...

http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/stor...5007132,00.html

They are also talkin about it on the LS1 forums.. they seem pretty pissed about it.

http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=80623

[DRD-00F]

it didn't say anything about young drivers for once... but im sure we'll have something new added to the no list...

Just make it so you can only drive electric cars til your 21...

[Smurf]

There will never be a solution to street racing though I'm sure if the majority of these people did something like the Dutton Rally they would get over their need to race.

I went and watched the WA Dutton on the weekend and I was very impressed by the lack of ego's and the great fun these guys get to have. When driving from one event to another all these guys take care, no racing and from what i saw most were doing the speed limit.

I'm not pretending to have the solution but I'm sure it would cure a few peoples need to speed.

Cheers

[djr81]

There will never be a solution to street racing though I'm sure if the majority of these people did something like the Dutton Rally they would get over their need to race.

I went and watched the WA Dutton on the weekend and I was very impressed by the lack of ego's and the great fun these guys get to have. When driving from one event to another all these guys take care, no racing and from what i saw most were doing the speed limit.

I'm not pretending to have the solution but I'm sure it would cure a few peoples need to speed.

Cheers

Please don't wish that on anyone. The kind of clowns who engage in"street racing" have absolutely no place behind the wheel of a car, let alone in a motor sport event.

[Sticky]

bloody street racers..

theres a track in sydney... use it

[adam-__-]

Sad to hear innocent people died. There's no way of stopping these street racers. Oh I guess there are ways, but wouldn't be a good solution.

Edited July 30, 2007 by adam-__-

[ctjet]

Wade Watson... saviour of nations!!

[Gts-t]

Please don't wish that on anyone. The kind of clowns who engage in"street racing" have absolutely no place behind the wheel of a car, let alone in a motor sport event.

I thought smurf's post was valid, if people could take their car to a track more readily then they should/probably would get over street racing etc.

But what happens when there is no track close to where u live, or u have to drive 90 minutes to a track that is crap??

The gov supports the community for every activity you could think of except motor sport, people with guns get shooting galleries provided , hell even heroin addicts get them. +1 for more tracks, shit have cops at them and over a period of time perhaps the relationship would improve between modified car owners and the police.

How about the government pay for me to rock up at a track, fuel up my car(not as cheap as the free heroin they get from their busts) and do some laps. then not defect me on the way home for what is legal just because my car is not some dunga unroadworthy, unregistered, uninsured piece of shit blowing smoke etc, that they arent going to get a $$ from because the owners of such rides are typically broke anyway.

No doubt it is horrible to see people die on the road but in terms of what kills people in australia each year is the road toll even in the top 100? also u can simply not expect to have zero road toll, i expect the road toll this year to be the roughly the same as 20 years ago, is it?

Ideally id like a situation where it was so easy to take ur car to the track and that it was frowned upon by everyone to conduct any sort of racing on the street.

i could crap on forever tho, i better go get my fire blanket ready

Edited July 30, 2007 by 2630GTS

[burgO.]

I thought smurf's post was valid, if people could take their car to a track more readily then they should/probably would get over street racing etc.

But what happens when there is no track close to where u live, or u have to drive 90 minutes to a track that is crap??

The gov supports the community for every activity you could think of except motor sport, people with guns get shooting galleries provided , hell even heroin addicts get them. +1 for more tracks, shit have cops at them and over a period of time perhaps the relationship would improve between modified car owners and the police.

How about the government pay for me to rock up at a track, fuel up my car(not as cheap as the free heroin they get from their busts) and do some laps. then not defect me on the way home for what is legal just because my car is not some dunga unroadworthy, unregistered, uninsured piece of shit blowing smoke etc, that they arent going to get a $ from because the owners of such rides are typically broke anyway.

No doubt it is horrible to see people die on the road but in terms of what kills people in australia each year is the road toll even in the top 100? also u can simply not expect to have zero road toll, i expect the road toll this year to be the roughly the same as 20 years ago, is it?

Ideally id like a situation where it was so easy to take ur car to the track and that it was frowned upon by everyone to conduct any sort of racing on the street.

i could crap on forever tho, i better go get my fire blanket ready

nice rant i agree 100% mate

[d00dz]

Both were red So I guess that made em go faster... Idiots!

RIP to the people who past away

[Nismo_God]

y do people continue to street race.....i just dont get it...

[sewid]

Both were red So I guess that made em go faster... Idiots!

RIP to the people who past away

The second red car is the camry wagon of the deceased. The silver commodore is not in that photo...

[Guilt-Toy]

there was a big Charity commodore cruise on that night and id say they were on the way home from that. The couple had 7 kids.

"The police crash investigator said Mrs Howle had started making a right-hand turn across the highway at the same time the three cars entered the intersection. "

Looks like the 71 year old lady pulled out infront of oncomming traffic. I wonder how fast the commodores were going and if the outcome would have been different if they were not racing. What if it was a big truck ?

This could end up being another major media stunt "street racing this and that - high performance cars this and that"

[djr81]

I thought smurf's post was valid, if people could take their car to a track more readily then they should/probably would get over street racing etc.

But what happens when there is no track close to where u live, or u have to drive 90 minutes to a track that is crap??

To answer your second question first, I drive for three hours to get to Wanneroo. Having few facilities near where you live is completely normal for those of us who live in rural/regional parts of Australia.

How does laziness (track too far away) constitute a valid reason for killing someone by doing something stupid?

The gov supports the community for every activity you could think of except motor sport, people with guns get shooting galleries provided , hell even heroin addicts get them. +1 for more tracks, shit have cops at them and over a period of time perhaps the relationship would improve between modified car owners and the police.

How about the government pay for me to rock up at a track, fuel up my car(not as cheap as the free heroin they get from their busts) and do some laps. then not defect me on the way home for what is legal just because my car is not some dunga unroadworthy, unregistered, uninsured piece of shit blowing smoke etc, that they arent going to get a $$ from because the owners of such rides are typically broke anyway.

So the money the governments tip into building facilities like Eastern Creek, Phillip Island, Queensland Raceway etc etc counts for nothing?

No doubt it is horrible to see people die on the road but in terms of what kills people in australia each year is the road toll even in the top 100? also u can simply not expect to have zero road toll, i expect the road toll this year to be the roughly the same as 20 years ago, is it?

Inspite of the ineptitude & incompetence of road safety "authorities" & the police, the road toll is going down. Everybody should thank the engineers that work at all the car companies for the multitudes of improvements that new cars have compared to those built 20 years ago.

According to the statistics the four most prevalent causes are:

Not wearing a seatbelt.

Drinking.

Fatigue.

Our old revenue raising favourite, speeding.

Ofcourse the fact that the fourth makes the consequences of the first three worse doesn't stop the whole of the focus being on the latter.

Ideally id like a situation where it was so easy to take ur car to the track and that it was frowned upon by everyone to conduct any sort of racing on the street.

It is already ridiculously easy to get your car to a track. As the sticker says: Street racing is not drag racing. Driving like a dickhead on the roads is already frowned upon. Or has nobody noticed?

Edited July 30, 2007 by djr81

[mad082]

there was a big Charity commodore cruise on that night and id say they were on the way home from that. The couple had 7 kids.

"The police crash investigator said Mrs Howle had started making a right-hand turn across the highway at the same time the three cars entered the intersection. "

Looks like the 71 year old lady pulled out infront of oncomming traffic. I wonder how fast the commodores were going and if the outcome would have been different if they were not racing. What if it was a big truck ?

This could end up being another major media stunt "street racing this and that - high performance cars this and that"

i'd say there is every chance that the old lady was to blame and the commodores weren't racing. the police just assume that because both commodores were side by side that they were racing. how many times you you been driving through the city and had another car next to you?

and the driver of the third car has come foward.