High Flowing A Turbo

[stasis]

Hi guys,

im thinking of buying a blown turbo. Its 34N1 1441-AA403. It can pump 500ps. Is it worth it to get it high flowed? Im looking into making 320kw@4wheels. Or should i just save up and go for a GTSS? Im thinking if im getting it highlowed for the blown turbo i will put in a journal bearing instead of a ball bearing for a quicker response. Where can i get the turbos highlowed with journal bearing? And how much? Is it worth it and the effeort of getting the turbo higlowed? Differeces in perforamnce compared to the cost of highflowed and a GTSS?

My rig is actuall a 260rs which is basically a r33gtr. Will be using the rig only on the street though. Appreciate for any opinions or comments.

[R31Nismoid]

Journal bearing is LESS responsive than Ball Bearing.

[stasis]

Journal bearing is LESS responsive than Ball Bearing.

As far as i know journal bearings are used for high speed applications. And its more precise in terms of the siiting of the shaft and the bearing itself. In a ball bearing it will have a minute play in the shaft due to the ball bearings.

[R31Nismoid]

I think you need to do some reading

http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbobygarre...bo_tech101.html

[Guilt-Toy]

[stasis]

we shall see im preety hard on journal bearing. Where can i get them rebuilt? For cheaps of course. with journal bearing.

[stolen_s15]

These guys will do it. But make sure you explain to them the benifits of journal bearings, as they might try to sell you those overrated ball bearing units. Also try to stay away from steel exhaust wheels, get ceramic, much lighter for faster spool.

http://www.atpturbo.com.au/

Edited November 14, 2007 by stolen_s15

[R31Nismoid]

lol

[Billet Ricky]

MR Turbo Australia can do your high flows.

Phone: 07 5596 1079.

[Tangles]

journal bearing will not spool 'faster' than ball bearing

definately wont (when comparing similar sized/spec'd turbos)

[TTT]

I spin faster than journal bearing turbos.

[RBwhatever]

Like "totally spinning out dude"?

[TTT]

Like "dude.. where's your car dude" !

[RBwhatever]

Like "dude, my cars so fast, I can't even see it"

[TTT]

Like "dude, my cars so fast, I can't even see it"

Car(s): 93 R33 GTS-T

I doubt it..

[STATUS]

Journal bearing is LESS responsive than Ball Bearing.

plain incorrect......

GARRET have marketed it quite well but at the end of the day it is just another way to get the same result. If journal bearings are still the preffered choice for all jet fighter turbines (due to same performance better reliability) i will continue to take the debate with a grain of salt.

i dont care either way as we sell large amounts of GARRET and Journal type turbos

as for your hi-flow dont bother, i would just save up and getting GT-SS's as they are small enough to get the 320awkw you need with excellent response..

[RBwhatever]

I doubt it..

Lol. Don't break my spirits man lol

[R31Nismoid]

plain incorrect...... broad general answer made with no understanding of the physics behind it.

GARRET have marketed it quite well but at the end of the day it is just another way to get the same result. If journal bearings are still the preffered choice for all jet fighter turbines (due to same performance better reliability) i will continue to take the debate with a grain of salt.

i dont care either way as we sell large amounts of GARRET and Journal type turbos

as for your hi-flow dont bother, i would just save up and getting GT-SS's as they are small enough to get the 320awkw you need with excellent response..

Not quite

I was talking specifically about the turbo's he wants to sort out.

Not a blanket statement that takes into accounts airplanes...

[stasis]

Not quite

I was talking specifically about the turbo's he wants to sort out.

Not a blanket statement that takes into accounts airplanes...

LOL!!! yea thats what i thought too. All high speed turbines and jet engines uses journal bearing like my irrgation pump which is a groundfos. pulled it aprat the other and its got a journal bearing at the bottom of it.

Now what the maximum limits in terms of Hp or kw can i get the car into with stock internals? Long term realibitlity. Cos thats whats going to govern of which turbo to get.

Im cureently looking for parts like :

800cc injectors

bosh 044 fuel pump

FRPs

AFms

havent decide which turbo yet?!

[R31Nismoid]

FRP?

As for motor limit, same as everyone else mate. 300-330rwkw depending on condition.