Gym And Supplement Discussion

[Mangune]

It's not that I have trouble with grip it's more the fact I have no powder and there is none at gym and over 100kg hurts the callus on the hands.

[Trozzle]

I remember the days I was sure I needed straps for 120kg even with alternate grip...

Now the weight that causes grip failure is 170kg lol

[TTT]

the possible Issue with mixed grip (rare) is a torn bicep.

Having that hand turned out puts the bicep in a kind of flexed position.

Gotta be careful not to bend the arms when doing deads (some people have a habbit close to lockout on really heavy weights to flex that arm a little)

It's a common injury in Strongman comps during the tyre flip events.

as you grab the tyre with both hands, palms up and lift to get it off the ground.

mixed grip has nothing to do with shoulders.

Using straps will probably help you lift more weight, but it just masks a weakness.

masking a weakness leads to injury

[GTR_JOEY]

It's not that I have trouble with grip it's more the fact I have no powder and there is none at gym and over 100kg hurts the callus on the hands.

who uses powder?

your deadlift is improving Troy

[jangles]

I've never used straps, always done mixed grip.

my energy/leg strength fails before my grip.

seen a guy doing 40kg deads with straps that were taking him longer to set up than the deads themselves. 100+kg guy also. Must of been toning.

[TTT]

who uses powder?

He means Chalk.

and all the cool people use chalk.

[GTR_JOEY]

He means Chalk.

and all the cool people use chalk.

lol riiiiiggghhhhttttt... a freind gave me a big bag of chalk once... never used it

[Trozzle]

who uses powder?

your deadlift is improving Troy

haha, I should add I haven't managed to lift 170kg by the way!! Most I've locked out is 165kg. Have recently reset weight and doing 4 sets of 5 reps. Currently on 135kg, stepping up 2.5kg each session.

lol riiiiiggghhhhttttt... a freind gave me a big bag of chalk once... never used it

[GTR_JOEY]

165 is still alright. What are you like 75kg now?

[GTR_JOEY]

Well i guess the other question is what are you training for?

strength or hypertrophy... both will build mass, just looks different

[TTT]

Almost a man now Troy.

[Mangune]

the possible Issue with mixed grip (rare) is a torn bicep.

Having that hand turned out puts the bicep in a kind of flexed position.

Gotta be careful not to bend the arms when doing deads (some people have a habbit close to lockout on really heavy weights to flex that arm a little)

It's a common injury in Strongman comps during the tyre flip events.

as you grab the tyre with both hands, palms up and lift to get it off the ground.

mixed grip has nothing to do with shoulders.

Using straps will probably help you lift more weight, but it just masks a weakness.

masking a weakness leads to injury

He means Chalk.

and all the cool people use chalk.

Yup and thanks, the voice of reason.

[Trozzle]

73kg bodyweight. Have completely and utterly ruined myself over Christmas though. Not at all happy right now lol

[TTT]

Not at all happy right now lol

Squats cure depression

Squats were used to build beyond blue and lifeline.

If you are not happy, you should do squats.

[Trozzle]

This is true lol.

Gonna go back to a simplified routine as well for a little while, just don't have patience to deal with 5 different exercises per session now that the gym is full of new-year resolution clowns.

Squats, deadlifts, bench press, OHP, pull ups.

[TTT]

Yep.. pretty much what I do... replace OHP with Pendlay Row and that's what I do through the week.

M - Squat

T - Chins and Row

W - Bench, Chins and Row

T - Chins and Row

F - Deads

[Trozzle]

I hate OHP exercises, unless they're clean+press....why don't you do them at all out of interest? I'd like to justify not doing them lol...happy to replace them with T-bar rows.

[TTT]

Shoulder injury currently.

When I'm fine I'd do 3 sets on wednesday

so it would go

Bench, Rows, OHP, chins

My shoulder injury is due to a lot of things, but a major one is more pressing then pulling.

so now on the mend, I just do bench, then lots of pulling..

I'll add them back in later.

[jangles]

I always start with BB exercises, then supports.

Troy, do you feel 2.5 is enough for legs? Although I guess it depends on your frequency.

Edited January 11, 2013 by jangles

[Trozzle]

2.5? wha? lol