Selling Cars Without Roadworthy

[eMsta]

Just wondering if there are any forms to fillout when selling without roadworthy. The vicroads website states that a person can sell a car without roadworthy by cancelling registration and removing the plates. Is this all I would have to do if I wanted to get rid of the car? I had been trying to get rid of the civic for ages now, but its probably no point, so thinking of either selling without roadworthy for anyone who wants a car to fix and use as a "train station" car or as a wreck for spare parts. Basically, third gear pops out and according to one mechanic it means that the whole box would have to be changed, and that is $300+ labour.

I figure its no point fixing it as the car itself would only go for about 700 max (as there is nothing else wrong with it apart from some rust).

[**JaR**]

tis illegal to sell a registered car without a roadworthy, but you can still do it....just depends if you trust the buyer to get his own roady and get it transferred within the 14 days etc...

but yeah, the legal way without RWC is to cancel the rego and sell it unregistered which means it doesnt need a RWC

my mate should buy it for a daily...

[krzysiu]

Yeah when selling without a rwc cancel the rego and then you can pretty much write up a contract on a piece of paper stating how much he paid and both sign it and done.

[eMsta]

hmmm....looks like thats how i will be doing it then.....i suppose if the buyer has a mechanic friend who can give a roadworthy then so be it

[abu]

If you don't want to cancel the rego just fill out a standard vehicle registration transfer form or whatever it is.

Keep your copy and give the seller his. The seller can still hand in the transfer paper and has a certain time frame to submit a RWC to complete transfer into his name. At least this way any fines or anything under that registration will go straight to the new buyer.

Have done it like this in the past before, never had a problem.

If any fines or anything show up you just present your copy of the transfer paper to Vic roads.

Edited January 24, 2008 by abu

[SABBAi]

Speak to Mav, he knows ALL the details about selling a car without RWC whilst it's still registered. I'm sure he can give you a few pointers.

[SLYNE]

ill buy it

[eMsta]

tis illegal to sell a registered car without a roadworthy, but you can still do it....just depends if you trust the buyer to get his own roady and get it transferred within the 14 days etc...

but yeah, the legal way without RWC is to cancel the rego and sell it unregistered which means it doesnt need a RWC

my mate should buy it for a daily...

ill buy it

i think its looking like i am just going to have to get rid of the RWC for the civic - the holden should be ok. Gonna put them up on carsales i think, see who will come and buy it. Perhaps advertise the civic for 800 - 1000 (as all it needs is 3rd gear to be fixed) and advertising the holden for about 2400.

[eMsta]

right....both cars have been submitted to carsales...now time to get rid of them and make way for the benz

[**JaR**]

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[W0rp3D]

If you sell it with rego and plates but no rwc fill in the transfer papers and hand your copy into vic roads that day, after that any speeding fines or anything else the new owner does with the car goes to him/her, if you fill out the papers and keep your copy and dont hand it in you are still liable for any fines and any other incident the car gets into.

If they ask about the plates just plead ignorant and say you didnt know you had to take them off.

Also dont think your safe if it is out of rego, i left the plates on an old rx7 i sold, he just walked into the local vic roads and got a new rego label and paid the rego, only found out when i got a fine in the mail a few months later, i tried to cancel the rego and get a refund on the rego he paid but they would not do it till i had handed in the plates, in the end i put in transfer papers and then got an abusive phone call coz he got a letter in the mail telling him he had 28 days to get a rwc or they would suspend the rego.

[eMsta]

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Carsales is still approving the civic one bud...will post it once its approved

Here is the holden one though

If you sell it with rego and plates but no rwc fill in the transfer papers and hand your copy into vic roads that day, after that any speeding fines or anything else the new owner does with the car goes to him/her, if you fill out the papers and keep your copy and dont hand it in you are still liable for any fines and any other incident the car gets into.

If they ask about the plates just plead ignorant and say you didnt know you had to take them off.

Also dont think your safe if it is out of rego, i left the plates on an old rx7 i sold, he just walked into the local vic roads and got a new rego label and paid the rego, only found out when i got a fine in the mail a few months later, i tried to cancel the rego and get a refund on the rego he paid but they would not do it till i had handed in the plates, in the end i put in transfer papers and then got an abusive phone call coz he got a letter in the mail telling him he had 28 days to get a rwc or they would suspend the rego.

i think what i have to do is, take the plates off and take it back to vicroads for a refund by cancelling what ever rego was left....i will have to give vicroads a call and check

[Ruffels]

i sold my sisters car for her to someone i thought was a friend, and we trusted him to get a roadworthy and transfer the car within the normal 14 day time period..

five months later my sister recieves a letter stating that she will loose her licence for doing 135 in a 100 zone (ring road camera) ... she had sold the car 5 months ago.... and this fine was only recent.

so do not trust anyone when it comes to roadworthys transfer and registration when selling a car

luckily my sister was able to sign a stat dec. saying she had sold the car to ____ _____ five months ago, and was not the driver or owner of the car whilst the offence took place

she then went to vicorads and did what i think was called "forceful transfer" , which is also a form of stat dec. declairing that ____ _____ is now the rightful owner of the car, so ____ ______ was then prompty sent a letter from vicorads saying, "get a roadworthy certificate and come into any vicroads office within the next 14 days to show us the certificate and pay transfer/stamp duty costs, otherwise we will suspend your registration, in which you then have 30 days to do so with a suspended registration, then it will be cancelled"

it even pays to do this when selling a car to a stranger... because it removes your name from the title of the car, this way any fines,offences etc done using the car will not come back to you

-Mark

Edited January 26, 2008 by Ruffels

[W0rp3D]

i think what i have to do is, take the plates off and take it back to vicroads for a refund by cancelling what ever rego was left....i will have to give vicroads a call and check

The legal thing to do is to take the plates off and cancel the rego, the problem is though the most valuable thing on those cars is the rego, its a lot easier to get a name transfer than to re register it, thats why doing it the way i suggested means you have more chance of selling the car and its out of your name.

[Modena]

With the money that you will get from the sale of that civic, you might be able to fill up a tank for that merc you wonna buy... make sure that you have a 4 c discount docket