Hsv Unveil New 7.0l Engine W427

[scathing]

Last time I checked, older GT-Rs weren't light on fuel either.

[Duncan]

lol or try a stagea

[Roy]

When you drive like a grand ma... and dont worry... petrol prices are only going up... 2 years ago we all had a heart attack when petrol prices hit a few cents over $1 dollar mark... today one litre of BP Ultimate/V Power is $1.59... wake up and smell the coffee... you better be making above 100 K a year to be enjoying your big V8... otherwise your buring money away, literally.

Those commenting on fuel economy...what are you basing this on? I have posted eleswhere the SS Crewman gets good economy around town, 12-13L/100kms. Thats no different to Skylines.

Many seem to be forgetting that fuel economy depends on lots of things, mostly power. To make a certain amount of power you need air and what? FUEL. So a responsive turbocharged car is likely to use more fuel then a lazier NA engine makign the same power but has better fuel economy.

Think back to those than hang shit on the Commodores in the days of Group A. The turbo cars often had worse fuel economy then the V8s. partly because they made more power but also because of the nature of turbochanrged cars and their need to run richer A:R

Anyway, i am damn close to getting a new SS Commodore....im liking the idea of a nice grunty, modern sedan. Just need to get some pipes to make it sound slike my old 427 Impala

[Flynnn]

Muprhys Laws suggests that the larger the engine capacity (larger cylinders) and the fewer cylinders it has.... it will burn extra fuel to get it going.

Common sense prevails

Edited March 7, 2008 by Barbarian

[Modena]

Those commenting on fuel economy...what are you basing this on? I have posted eleswhere the SS Crewman gets good economy around town, 12-13L/100kms. Thats no different to Skylines.

Many seem to be forgetting that fuel economy depends on lots of things, mostly power. To make a certain amount of power you need air and what? FUEL. So a responsive turbocharged car is likely to use more fuel then a lazier NA engine makign the same power but has better fuel economy.

Think back to those than hang shit on the Commodores in the days of Group A. The turbo cars often had worse fuel economy then the V8s. partly because they made more power but also because of the nature of turbochanrged cars and their need to run richer A:R

Anyway, i am damn close to getting a new SS Commodore....im liking the idea of a nice grunty, modern sedan. Just need to get some pipes to make it sound slike my old 427 Impala

My skyline drinks 12 litres per 100 KMs on average... with todays fuel prices its thirsty and unpractical.

[GTR-32U]

If this new 8 has cylinder deactivation then thats an interesting thing...How many cylinders does it shut down ...? if it shuts down 4 you still got a 3.5 litre 4cylinder running.Still a sedan sized engine even then..but much better than the full eight.I never noticed my old skyline being bad on fuel. It was all relative to how I drove it. Highway kms it was great on fuel, City it did suffer a bit...I used to drive it to work...It used about the same as my old VN V6..on average anyway...Drive it hard and man it will drink, but cruise around and it was very good

[Roy]

My skyline drinks 12 litres per 100 KMs on average... with todays fuel prices its thirsty and unpractical.

But here in Vic this weekend its a long weekend. Can you take your wife and kid or three down Great Ocean Road to Appollo Bay in your Skyline and still enjoy a sporting drive. The Crewman matchew my little RB20 at about 9.0-9.5L/100km on the freeway. Horses for courses. Farked if i want to drive a a 4dr Mondeo because i have kids, even if it gets 7.5-8.0L/100kms

[Modena]

But here in Vic this weekend its a long weekend. Can you take your wife and kid or three down Great Ocean Road to Appollo Bay in your Skyline and still enjoy a sporting drive. The Crewman matchew my little RB20 at about 9.0-9.5L/100km on the freeway. Horses for courses. Farked if i want to drive a a 4dr Mondeo because i have kids, even if it gets 7.5-8.0L/100kms

I aint a family man... yet The car is only for myself and my girl. In saying that, if I needed more space... I would get myself a Toyota Camry or Aurion... just cant beat the economy and reliability of Toyota.

[Roy]

I aint a family man... yet The car is only for myself and my girl. In saying that, if I needed more space... I would get myself a Toyota Camry or Aurion... just cant beat the economy and reliability of Toyota.

And fair call. But if you need a commuter then HSV arent targeting you if you think a Camry will fit the bill.....so?!?!?!

And those that are so quick to judge (not pointing fingers at anyone in particular, just responding to the whole 7L comments), the thing offers the same sort of economy as our R32/33/34 Skylines and no dount the new R35 GTR. So if that is an issue then its time to look at a Diesel Gold etc and forget what HSV, Nissan, Ferrari, Lamborghini, AMG , Mercedes etc are offering motorists

[getz stuffed]

Lets not decide for each other what we can afford or can not afford to drive. Fuel will be $3 per litre in 7-10 years. Sure it is worrying for most of us. buying houses were not cheap either last time I checked. Hsv are in no way targeting the majority of drivers who worry about fuel prices. The majority of this forum is filled up with 17 - 25 years olds, over commiting maybe. the skylines you drive you could never afford brand new off the show room floor originally, so you get them 10 years later, they are still performance cars, and they use more fuel then most cars on the road. the initial layout is less because its older, this does not necessarily change the cost of owning it.

conerned about fuel = own a toyota yaris,

not concerned about fuel = own what you want.

[madbung]

The W427 will be quite possibly the fastest road registrable Supercar ever produced in Australia and among the quickest anywhere around the world, he said.

Australian "supercar/s"? interesting... never seen one, maybe the hybrid Giocattalo was a near attempt back in the day but a supercar? narp!

So this monsrtosity is pushing around 1hp per cube, talk about a 1970's philosopy to performance..but you cant't expect much more from a yank mill I spose.

[Roy]

So this monsrtosity is pushing around 1hp per cube, talk about a 1970's philosopy to performance..but you cant't expect much more from a yank mill I spose.

Maybe, but the old girl still punches hard and outshines anything the Europeans and Japanese can throw at them at LeMans. Big, lazy engines are reliablw and cheap to produce, say that for the engine sin the Astons and Ferraris that still cant punch what GM are racing

Personally i cant wait to see the new Camaro in the flesh. Or what the pricing will be of the new Holden Coupe

[gts-4 dreamer]

I am very interested in an N/A car.. I dont like the temperamental turbo problems though the predictable and ease of use when it comes to power delivery is good for me.. im so used to puting my foot down early for the power to come on when I want it im almost ahead... I would HAVE to remind myself after spinning a couple of times in an NA now that... wait for the apex.. wait wait wait... go.. ohshiteeeeeeeeee to late.

I have to admit that airbrushed pic makes me hornier than any bmw ever did.. maybe it's nostalgia... maybe its the ausy in me... but I LiKe BM's in specification.. I like how they go.. but deeper emotions just don't float with it for me... this has the looks..... depending on suspension geometry... It could really be a goer... I have to admit I am waiting on seeing what a new model coupe looks like... stock strong short shift 6... the next evolution should see an acceptable amount of double syncro fun gears. 6 pot fronts optionally extra on the current model. With less than 20 year old wagon / ute suspension on the sedan model... not as completely FUGLY as the last 15 years worth... wonder what an inter cooled supercharged solution is worth.. hell... give me 500rwhp N/A and Ill be a happy camper....

Would piss of my ford loving father though... 5 points ++

Edited March 10, 2008 by gts-4 dreamer

[madbung]

Maybe, but the old girl still punches hard and outshines anything the Europeans and Japanese can throw at them at LeMans. Big, lazy engines are reliablw and cheap to produce, say that for the engine sin the Astons and Ferraris that still cant punch what GM are racing

Personally i cant wait to see the new Camaro in the flesh. Or what the pricing will be of the new Holden Coupe

Has the coupe been confirmed? I didn't think it had.

Yes in a racing application they go ok for the reasons you state........but for real world private applications? No thanks

[Roy]

Gut feel is Holden dont have pools of money laying around. So woudl think that if they took the time to build the concept car then provided its received well they will most likely make it. So i am crossing fibers...and hopeully its around 350Z money

[Bliksem]

Heres a photo of the W427 I took yesterday at the motorshow:

And just for the record, there's only 200 being produced so I doubt the people buying these are going to consider fuel economy when they put their hand up to buy one

[RNGTR]

After 13 years of turbo cars i'm loving my lazy 6.0 litre V8. Doesnt go as hard as my old GTR or EVO but has miles of room , has a huge boot, is quiet inside & sounds awesome at WOT.

Trip to Echuca at the start of Feb returned 9.2 L per 100 ks, did just over 1100ks round trip, 30 + degrees air cond on the whole way so I was pretty happy with that.

I dont have room in my life for 2 performance cars right now, so the SS fills the bill nicely as the perfect all rounder. At 44k with 3 yr warranty its Great value.

Edited March 10, 2008 by RNGTR

[R338OY]

I believe the surging fuel prices, which will double in 10 years or less, is a way to ween the population off petrol. It's running out and these prices do two things:

1) Make a sh!tload for oil owners, refineries, governments and distributors, and

2) Will make owning a petrol powered car so impractical that alternative fuel will become the standard.

This second point will do two things:

1) Give other market sectors (biofuel developers/producers, hydrogen cell developers/producers, electrically powered/hybrid developers/producers and engineering departments of large automakers opportunity to mass produce new engines and cars) the massive profits associated with a passenger transport renaissance in which we turf all our current vehicles and buy brand new ones which are incompatible with older technologies.

2) Begin using alternative fuels, at which prices are set at whatever the bloody hell these industries deem reasonable.

All i really care about is that we don't continue to rape the environment, which is what the extensive international political debate has been doing over the last decade.

I'm looking forward to seeing what the Jap and German engineers can do for the future of the internal combustion engine. I think there will be a market for it when we're all 70-80 y.o. There's a new BMW 7-series powered by hydrogen using an internal combustion motor. Jay Leno drank the water which dripped from the exhaust tip

[scathing]

the engine sin the Astons and Ferraris that still cant punch what GM are racing

Yeah, but he's a Japanese turbo car fan so he's not thinking about that Euro trash. Obviously he's talking about the superiority of the jewels of the East that can squeeze a lot of power in a relatively narrow band but from a smaller powerplant.....for a while.

[MFC05]

120 For a commdore only quick in straight lines i can see all the cashed up bogans that work in the mines buying one of these, 30 grand more i can buy the new R35 GTR. Saying that it looks nice though but i wouldnt buy one.