just got done...

[WazR32GTSt]

Hi just a question...

i just dragged my mate's 97 verada (auto, 3.5L V6, FWD) and to 100kmh got done by about 0.5 to 1 car length... and i wasn't catching up either

is this normal??? my car is an auto and i didn't stall the gearbox but i got a goodish start i think...

Waz.

[Horus]

that doesnt sound right........

[ApacheX]

u got anything that would add....a significant amount of weight to ya car?

[SHUTO-BOY]

yea u should be able to pull away from a verada easy

[WazR32GTSt]

weigh... um me?

i had a cricket bag in the boot but that doesn't weight all that much

...and i have a hi-flow panel filter (+ CAI) and cat-back exhaust as well.

hmmmmm what's wrong? car drives very nicely with no problems. am i down on power? stock boost auge says i'm ok in that department

[inark]

u serious? i think its time for u to learn to drive a manual

even in auto u should be able to beat it.... stall it up a little next time... even my 32 thrashes veradas and magna sports models easily.

[inark]

does the auto have things like traction control or over drive or power etc?

things that play with the transmission?

[inark]

i assume we are talking about at a drag way?

[predator]

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/sh...&threadid=23144

Doesn't that fit under the above classification? even if it is a Magna

[Guest Robo's]

The 3.5 aint that slow, very torquey off the line

[2fardown]

We have about 7 fairly new magnas/veradas here at work. Some of them have that quick shift auto trans with traction control. The 3.5 litre has plenty of torque of the mark surprisingly. To tell you the truth I'm not really surprised he beat you.

[predator]

... must not respond, must not talk about illegal acts..

ok, well a "friend" right who might have owned a skyline at some point in time "noticed" that a lot of other Magna drivers are increasingly having the idea that they are are driving a "sports" car putting on big exhausts, big rims, and the like. I think this comes down to the fact that they can maybe "best" a V6 commodore now and then and sure they are probably not too slow for what they are. However in reality when my "friend" came near these cars, which seem to be quite often willing to "test" their cars, the um "situation" proved that they indeed have a good "stop to go" capability, they lack um "abilities" after the first initial "stop go" point in time.

[Daz]

A friend was telling me how he saw a R34 and a new Magne drag, supposely the magna was ahead by a car length. I hope that R34 was a non turbo.

[SS8_Gohan]

bout what... 156kw at like 1600kg's, vs. 160'ish kw's, 1300kg's....

used to drive my mum's Verada wagon quite a bit, engine got nothing on a BMW 3.0 Straight six. Bitsamising engine is ok, but i would def think not a R32 Turbo beater.

[Cyric]

These new 'fancy' sports family mobiles have got a fair bit of grunt to them. I totally wasted a Supra the other day in my rental Camry 3.0 V6....

But I wouldn't put them against a GTS-T..... you sure you weren't halucinating.....

[R31Nismoid]

Originally posted by SS8_Gohan

bout what... 156kw at like 1600kg's, vs. 160'ish kw's, 1300kg's....

kw is not what moves a car :bahaha:

it's the torque, and where/how long that torque is made over what RPM will determine who will win.

you can have similar kw, but if you got WAY more torque... i know who'll win...

Also then you gotta look at diff ratios etc etc.

[Guest Robo's]

Originally posted by R31Nismoid

kw is not what moves a car    :bahaha:  

it's the torque, and where/how long that torque is made over what RPM will determine who will win.

you can have similar kw, but if you got WAY more torque... i know who'll win...

Also then you gotta look at diff ratios etc etc.

Exactly, its the car with the best average spread of kw's that wins races, not peak power, and especially in an auto.

[predator]

okz.. lets put this one to rest

317Nm @ 4500rpm is the specs for the latest 3.5L VRX jigga jigga auto/blah (mind you still only SOHC) ...1570kg

R33 skyline (stock) peak torque: 294Nm @ 4800rpm

R32 Skyline (stock) peak torque: 264Nm @ 3200rpm

Now very little difference in peak torque, and the the magna is at least 200kg heavier.. stock 32 would probably be close.. stock 33 would easy win.

If yours is a stock R32 WazR32GTSt then that is probably why :-)

CASE CLOSED

[R31Nismoid]

once again... i prove my limited intelligence has merits

But yes. stock, you'd get eaten.

but also it's be interesting how much the magna makes upto that point, is it constant or a quick peak?

getting both graphs for comparison would be good.

but yes. magna... those who say they've beaten them blah blah... Ok, whatever. Stock - Stock i'd have $$$ on magna.

note gordo... the R33 is heavier so it again would be interesting.

that also have a fair factor to consider.

[Guest Robo's]

The power curve would be alot flatter than the R32, 0-3000rpm the Magna would eat you. The R series motors dont have very good low down punch as they have a short stroke.