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Guilt-toy Now Running On E85 !

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I am willing to bet that a stock RB25 bottom end will be able to handle 350rwkw with E85.

Get me a stock rb25 engine and i will drop it into my car. If i break it at anything under 350 rwkw i will pay for the engine.

This fuel is soo forgiving its not funny. You can get the MAX torque level and then advance the timing a extra 10 deg and it will STILL NOT DETONATE.

DETONATION destroys engines!!! if your not pinging your RB25 it will last shitloads longer!!! Look at old mate from wollongong who ran over 380rkw and ran a 10 sec quarter on unstable pump 98...

add e85 to the equasion and your talking BIG power. I would not be suprised if you can reach 400rwkw with e85 and a stock RB25. (maybe some rod bolts might be needed but you never know lets try it ???)

dont listen to him Dave...its his birthday and he's drunk.

he's already rang and asked can he use your new engine as a test mule :(

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so i got a bit keen today and went for a drive to the united and grabbed 40 litres of e85. went to try and syphon it and got it on my lips, damn it burnt!! so i gave up on that idea.... we had a s

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Mick, I don't see the point of pushing every last kw out of an engine in a daily driver. I mean each to their own and all that - bit different for track cars. A tune will forever be a compromise betwe

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dont listen to him Dave...its his birthday and he's drunk.

he's already rang and asked can he use your new engine as a test mule :(

lol

It will be a test mule, But ill be the one riding it. :(

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I am willing to bet that a stock RB25 bottom end will be able to handle 350rwkw with E85.

Get me a stock rb25 engine and i will drop it into my car. If i break it at anything under 350 rwkw i will pay for the engine.

This fuel is soo forgiving its not funny. You can get the MAX torque level and then advance the timing a extra 10 deg and it will STILL NOT DETONATE.

DETONATION destroys engines!!! if your not pinging your RB25 it will last shitloads longer!!! Look at old mate from wollongong who ran over 380rkw and ran a 10 sec quarter on unstable pump 98...

add e85 to the equasion and your talking BIG power. I would not be suprised if you can reach 400rwkw with e85 and a stock RB25. (maybe some rod bolts might be needed but you never know lets try it ???)

My thoughts precisely Guilt Toy, I think its hard for people to get their head around how good this fuel actually is in making power and looking after the engine. Two extremely good things to have if you ask me.

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strap a turbo to mine and chuck some injectors in there and you can use mine :( I barely drive it as it is...

Just make sure you keep Glue or sticky tape handy wont ya for those pistons :(

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BINGO!

Im going to squeeze every usable (safe) power i can with my E85 setup.

Maybe 340rwkw.

Looking at your build i would say its very possible indeed. You have the larger rear and cams so should be up there thats for sure.

I still think my car has more in it also because boost goes to 24 and then trails off to 19 by redline. If i can get it to hold 22-23 to redline who knows. The day it was dynod wasnt the optimum either.

1st run it spun its lips off to the tune of 279rwkw so we re strapped

2nd run it wheel spun again at the top of the torque and registered 323.8

3rd run the heat had set in from idling and the runs before, it still spun a bit at the top of the torque but it was the only usable graph at 323.2

The torque line is so steep a ramp its almost unbelieveable hence the spinning on the rollers. Good times :(

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DRD-00F

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Just make sure you keep Glue or sticky tape handy wont ya for those pistons :)

haha, i have cable ties in the car at all times! :laugh:

I'd be fine with it breaking, the battery got down to 9.1 volts just yesterday, I haven't driven it in weeks... I also found out that 9.2 volts is the bare minimum you need for HIDs to work :(

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Im currently doing lots of research into reflux stills to make my own ! As it will be years until its up north QLD.

Reality is until lots of cars are E85 capable, it won't be prolific. I believe holden commodore is E85 in 2010 ???? This will be the catalyst i think , when the local cars can run it ..... can't wait.

Gary

joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo Grand Master

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i'm just waiting on my car to get back from the panel beaters and i'm good to go!

united are rolling out e85 at lots of servo's in vic real soon AFAIK

300rwkw on hks 2835 here i come!

NYTSKY Grand Master

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Looking at your build i would say its very possible indeed. You have the larger rear and cams so should be up there thats for sure.

I still think my car has more in it also because boost goes to 24 and then trails off to 19 by redline. If i can get it to hold 22-23 to redline who knows. The day it was dynod wasnt the optimum either.

1st run it spun its lips off to the tune of 279rwkw so we re strapped

2nd run it wheel spun again at the top of the torque and registered 323.8

3rd run the heat had set in from idling and the runs before, it still spun a bit at the top of the torque but it was the only usable graph at 323.2

The torque line is so steep a ramp its almost unbelieveable hence the spinning on the rollers. Good times :(

You only have the .63 rear housing?

Jeez your power figure is impressive then, that would have to be the limit of flow for that turbo.

Might give 2bar a try, my new engine setup has slightly bigger cams and lower CR than the previous one so its a little more boost friendly.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY ANTHONY aka MAD SCIENTIST as Paul says :P

paulr33 Grand Master

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hi

long time reader, first time poster

did i miss something? i recall reading that guily toy tried 85 and it was poo

economy was horrible and it wasnt suitable - now all of a sudden its the best thing ever

what changed?

what needs to be done to the car to make it run on e85 properly

whats fuel economy like

joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo Grand Master

joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo

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hi

long time reader, first time poster

did i miss something? i recall reading that guily toy tried 85 and it was poo

economy was horrible and it wasnt suitable - now all of a sudden its the best thing ever

what changed?

what needs to be done to the car to make it run on e85 properly

whats fuel economy like

it was... but then he tuned it some more and fell in love...

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