Guilt-toy Now Running On E85 !

[whatsisname]

Yep, test and see the difference between 0.80 and 0.85ish whilst paying attention for detonation. If the gains are considerable and detonation doesn't rear it's head, all good.

[NYTSKY]

Picked up 80L of jungle juice from the Enhance servo in Granville.

The guy was a little hesitant turning on the bowser at first. Once i explained what i was doing with it, he called his boss and it was all good.

Does not smell as strong as 98 so i did not choke on the way home. Very clear liquid too.

Tuning tomorrow

Fingers crossed!!!!!!

[(OO)Firty Free(OO)]

Picked up 80L of jungle juice from the Enhance servo in Granville.

The guy was a little hesitant turning on the bowser at first. Once i explained what i was doing with it, he called his boss and it was all good.

Does not smell as strong as 98 so i did not choke on the way home. Very clear liquid too.

Tuning tomorrow

Fingers crossed!!!!!!

Excellent stuff cant wait too see the results, good luck with it.

I'll take a stab 340-360rwkw @24psi.

[Guilt-Toy]

guys, i have heard that the e85 that is sold at United is best stuff you can get in Australia as they make their own out of Sugar caine. The other servo's might be importing the Corn stuff from the states?

I only use United so it does not bother me but the other day someone told me this, not too sure how true it is so more clarification may be needed, when i was at the United at Rozelle the other day the guy who owns the Workshop that runs out of the servo came and had a chat with me, he runs his supercharged scooter on it (very cool thing with a old dial style microtech LOL) and explained to me how the United stuff is the best stuff getting around.

So how do we get down to the bottom of this - I would rather run my car on the best stuff and I am sure everyone else trying e85 would prefer to as well so you don't get a bad experience with it on your first try.

[NYTSKY]

Bob at JEM told me yesterday they will be sending a batch of the E85 they buy to be tested to see what exactly is in it.

Seeing as i bought E85 from the same place the results should be interesting.

[Guilt-Toy]

Bob at JEM told me yesterday they will be sending a batch of the E85 they buy to be tested to see what exactly is in it.

Seeing as i bought E85 from the same place the results should be interesting.

can you grab a litre or so from United and get them to send out that as a test as well?

THAT will be the interesting test.

[NYTSKY]

On my next trip to fill up ill get a few drums from Enhance and a few from United.

[Guilt-Toy]

On my next trip to fill up ill get a few drums from Enhance and a few from United.

why? you only need to do a test to test the differences in that test

[MBS206]

Ethanol is ethanol...

Or are you more concerned of the other 15%?

[Guilt-Toy]

there are different ways of making ethanol.. the way CSR do and the way the others do.. like the yanks use corn to make it while united CSR use sugar caine. The sugar caine is much better then the corn ways.

[discopotato03]

Hi again , been out of the apple juice scene recently .

From what I could tell a while back Manildra Grp and CSR were the ones making Ethanol Alcohol for fuels .

I don't have time to search ATM but it would be interesting to know if Australia has standards yet for "E85" fuel .

Gary (SK) mentioned that he went looking for an MSTS but came up with zip . Somewhere in this thread I think I posted an American one just to show some form of standard .

I do remember them saying over there that "E85" blends are altered in the winter time because it can be hard to make fire up in cold conditions . There may have even been ways of tossing in straight fuel at start up - and you can imagine what an EPA type organisation would say about that .

I can't say with our "E85" but there is definitely differences with locally available E10 , I think a lot of that "budget fuel" is 10% ethanol and 90% of the cheapest rubbish they can legally (?) sell . The stuff I was burning in the 300K old Subaru RX Turbo was supposedly 95E10 and felt like burning 95ULP .

BTW is the servo just past the Meccano Set (Old Hume Hwy/Woodville Rd) selling E85 to the public yet or are they still playing games ?

What's the price of E85 like these days , I think the recent fall in ULP prices may have killed off some interest in E85 but price is on the rise again . Stupid when crude is as cheap as it'supposed to be but at least the OPEC suppliers now know they won't have it all their own way .

The urban myth about corn and ethanol is because cork heads don't realse that you get back most of what you put in after making ethanol from corn .

Anyone know if the VE Commode got flex fuel capability yet ? Cheers A .

[dano4127]

preety sure its got the capability but they havent flicked the swithc yet for some reason - I heard its already ready to go in the ECU just needs them to endorse it i guess

[180or200]

Not sure how current it is today but still worth a look

ifqc_report.pdf

[discopotato03]

I can't seem to edit my last post , MSTS should have been MSDS - Material Safety Data Sheet .

A .

[Guilt-Toy]

At rozelle its still 99.7c a litre

[whatsisname]

Quick bit of info' from me; I always knew that running high ethanol content (and certainly methanol) fuels reduced engine temp's / coolant temp's etc. But I guess until you see it for your own eyes it doesn't sink in.

I just did a trip to the motor trimmer (40km drive) which is the first decent drive I've done since the switch to E85, and today is a mild 26'c humid yet sunny Adelaide day. My coolant temperature pre-E85 would normally sit at 80-82'c with a peak of 88-90'c A/C on at full blast under these conditions. Today... 72'-74'c and peaking at 80-82'c with A/C on and sitting in traffic. A very impressive by-product of running E85!

[NYTSKY]

The one at Lansvale are playing silly buggers, but i did have to do a bit of persuading to get the E85 out of the one at Granville.

I paid 99.8 at Granville.

[23 GTR]

had been running my car on E85 for approx 6 months.

Initially, the engine was occasionally cutting out, especially in 2nd gear, once over 6000 revs.

2 weeks ago, the engine started cutting out lower and lower in the rev range. Eventually I couldn't go beyond 4000 revs.

The fuel filter on the new Sard fuel pump (installed in the fuel tank at the time of the conversion to E85) was covered in brown, slimy stuff.

That was cleaned up and car runs with no probs now. Furthermore, the car idles a lot quieter and smoother (even with the air con on).

Anyone expirienced something similar?

I'm aware that ethanol is very good at cleaning stuff well; wonder if all the grot was in the fuel tank from before and ethanol has cleaned it off the walls of the fuel tank.

[180or200]

Hey Michael

good to see someone else useing it!

I've used it daily for around 8 months, love the stuff, idle is smoother foresure!

few weeks ago my tomei pump was leaning out when it was hot so i changed it for a 044, the filter sock on the tomei was pretty blocked, it looked like rubber, wasnt slimey, i didnt use the right hose from the top of the pump to the lid of tank and it was loseing it's outa cover, I dont think that helped but i'm sure the pump died from running too much base pressure (46-48) then stuffing in 24+ psi on top!

I too read it cleans tank but an even bigger concern i think is its cleaning the servo tanks. I changed my fuel filter after 6 months use and it wasnt blocked, far from it.

Edited February 20, 2009 by 180or200

[MBS206]

Quick bit of info' from me; I always knew that running high ethanol content (and certainly methanol) fuels reduced engine temp's / coolant temp's etc. But I guess until you see it for your own eyes it doesn't sink in.

I just did a trip to the motor trimmer (40km drive) which is the first decent drive I've done since the switch to E85, and today is a mild 26'c humid yet sunny Adelaide day. My coolant temperature pre-E85 would normally sit at 80-82'c with a peak of 88-90'c A/C on at full blast under these conditions. Today... 72'-74'c and peaking at 80-82'c with A/C on and sitting in traffic. A very impressive by-product of running E85!

Okay guys, you're all noticing drops in engine temps (Bar Guilt Toy) so has it worried you that now your engine is not running at the temperature it was designed to?

Maybe causing pre-mature wear? We all know it's bad to flog a "cold" engine, but is it bad to flog a cooler then normal temp engine? (IE, 10 - 15 degrees less?)