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Was looking at these not long ago, specifically the S258. What stopped me was the physical size of the unit compared to a GT3076R. Aside from that these turbos sounds quite exciting. Would be a good alternative if purchasing direct from the states with a favourable exchange rate.

The only Aus distributer I could find was http://www.turbotech.com.au/sc4/borg-warner/ be prepared to pay more than a Garret though :(

Edited by MintR33
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gt4088 vs s374 borg warner... lol.

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funny how the big one comes on the same and makes 115hp more..

That just not possible!! It's bush bearing diesel "old tech", costs much less, and can be rebuilt for cheap! There's no way it can be better than a garret!! :D

Edited by Cjmartz2k

Just to clarify I was being sarcastic--I run a Holset which is a close cousin to the Borg-Warners and was catching a bunch of flak from people basically saying if it wasn't a Garrett GT series, it was crap. These B-W's, especially with the extended tip technologies do some amazing things.

Hmmm thats kinda funny seeing is my GT series turbo didnt come anywhere close to my S366. i broke traction ONCE on the dyno with my GT turbo, and it was only at 8800rpms, with my S366 anything from vtec on up is almost nothing but wheelspin, and yes im on drag radials, i just went and bought larger ones this week so i can put my car back on the dyno

The S366 made it very clear to me that my 35R was a joke

From the second comparison link given.

just something trent (uras) mentioned in a thread a lil while back...

not really sure why, hadn't really ever thought about it

yea i read this in High performance imports magazine. they say something like drag tyres are the last things you want to run on a dyno, use cheap hard low profile tyres supposedly.

im just saying what i have read though so dont flame me.

as for borg-warners, i have been hunting and all of them on ebayUS are super exspensive compared to the holsets, there is a hx40w (holset) on ebay atm for like $350 and they flow like crazy, just ask CJ.

havent been able to find any suppliers in Aus for borgs and holset are super exspensive if you buy em here.

cheers

Gezza

as for borg-warners, i have been hunting and all of them on ebayUS are super exspensive compared to the holsets

Yup, no-ones saying there cheap. They're a dedicated performance turbo with a range of housings available. They are marketed against Garrett. The majority of Holsets are oem for diesel applications.

Yeah, that's the great thing with holsets. I'd say the HX series of holsets is pretty much on par with the non-extended tip versions of Borg-Warner's performance wise. It's just that they are so damn cheap (at least if you can get them from american ebay). One of the downsides with them is you have to spend a little time hunting up the correct sized ex housing sometimes. You can't just order them with the size you want for cheap. They are a viable cheap alternative to garret's.

One thing to note with the comparo's above, they were both single scroll turbo's, but most of the BW's, and almost all of the holset's I have seen are twin scroll which really help's with spool times.

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