Mark-32 Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Playing with fire how? Everyone is entitled to their opinion, the figures probably are up the sh#t, who knows, who cares. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/251820-got-over-400kw-atw/page/116/#findComment-6635318 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonR32 Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Playing with fire how? Everyone is entitled to their opinion, the figures probably are up the sh#t, who knows, who cares. We know... You care... 1 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/251820-got-over-400kw-atw/page/116/#findComment-6635321 Share on other sites More sharing options...
linkems Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 (edited) 480kw on vp 109 and dash 5s @ 23psi, BACKED UP with repeated 140+mph runs. It can be done, just not by many Mark32 being on powerplus rated at 108 would be pretty damn close to vp race fuel, i dont see why every one is getting their panties in a knot. Edited November 22, 2012 by linkems Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/251820-got-over-400kw-atw/page/116/#findComment-6635334 Share on other sites More sharing options...
black bnr32 Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 I don't understand what the issue is. e85, increasing boost later in the rpm range, and 'at the limit' tuning probably explain the nice graph 20psi @ 4700rpm sounds very good, but reasonable 700Nm @ 5000 rpm sounds very good, but reasonable nobody else even talks about, let alone posts graphs, about increasing boost with rpm. that's probably the main reason for the high peak power. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/251820-got-over-400kw-atw/page/116/#findComment-6635341 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark-32 Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Careful guys people get very emotional over posts like that. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/251820-got-over-400kw-atw/page/116/#findComment-6635350 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dan Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 480kw on vp 109 and dash 5s @ 23psi, BACKED UP with repeated 140+mph runs. It can be done, just not by many Mark32 being on powerplus rated at 108 would be pretty damn close to vp race fuel, i dont see why every one is getting their panties in a knot. Finally someone with some backed up proof. How much does your car weigh? I suspect you have more than 480kw Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/251820-got-over-400kw-atw/page/116/#findComment-6635353 Share on other sites More sharing options...
linkems Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 That's not my car i stumbled across it on youtube a long time ago, go have a look at some of his other videos. It's been the highest power output I've seen up until mark32's results. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/251820-got-over-400kw-atw/page/116/#findComment-6635363 Share on other sites More sharing options...
black bnr32 Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 (edited) the specs from that video: HKS 2,8l stroker kit + twin GT2860-5 + nismo intake plenum + greddy 264 cams + 1000cc RC injectors + Apexi D-Jetro + Almasi tuning the scale on the torque curve looks wrong, but the power curve looks accurate http://www.gtrpwr.co...thread.php?t=62 Edited November 22, 2012 by black bnr32 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/251820-got-over-400kw-atw/page/116/#findComment-6635394 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonR32 Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 470kw on a hub dyno with correction on would not normally equate to more power on a roller. 630hp at the hubs and 140+mph is impressive, I'm guessing flat shifting a dog box probably helps with 3-4mph Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/251820-got-over-400kw-atw/page/116/#findComment-6635434 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Drager Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Yeah most people don't, but sometimes it's gotta be done because everyone else around then expects it to be "the norm"... And then we end up with more and more threads like "why am i down on power", when in actual fact they are perfectly fine... They are just expecting something that's not reasonable and trying to explain this to such users can be about as productive as belting ones head against a wall (similar to telling the GTX/500rwkw person that it was not possible, but we were all haters ) And for the record, there are no mini-me's running around that i know of If you think thats BS, i know one person who got "498rwkw" out of -5's on PUMP and when i asked him to back it up with MPH he said its an inaccurate way to calculate power! the fark lol. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/251820-got-over-400kw-atw/page/116/#findComment-6635697 Share on other sites More sharing options...
topher_ Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 If you think thats BS, i know one person who got "498rwkw" out of -5's on PUMP and when i asked him to back it up with MPH he said its an inaccurate way to calculate power! the fark lol. Probably because he knows he isn't making that power haha Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/251820-got-over-400kw-atw/page/116/#findComment-6635708 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lithium Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 There is a guy in NZ that claims mid 500kw on pump on GT2860Rs who is a fairly respected track racer etc, which sounds like crap - even on a high reading dyno. The trap speed argument has come up but he has no interest in drag racing, conveniently. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/251820-got-over-400kw-atw/page/116/#findComment-6635726 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dan Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 There is a guy in NZ that claims mid 500kw on pump on GT2860Rs who is a fairly respected track racer etc, which sounds like crap - even on a high reading dyno. The trap speed argument has come up but he has no interest in drag racing, conveniently. We have no interest in believing him then Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/251820-got-over-400kw-atw/page/116/#findComment-6635764 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mico Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 so this is now the worlds fastest low mount powered gtr ? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/251820-got-over-400kw-atw/page/116/#findComment-6636273 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nee-san Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 so this is now the worlds fastest low mount powered gtr ? Um no. Pretty sure it's still that japanese car Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/251820-got-over-400kw-atw/page/116/#findComment-6636311 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark-32 Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 There is a guy in NZ that claims mid 500kw on pump on GT2860Rs who is a fairly respected track racer etc, which sounds like crap - even on a high reading dyno. The trap speed argument has come up but he has no interest in drag racing, conveniently. Dumb comment old boy Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/251820-got-over-400kw-atw/page/116/#findComment-6636334 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHITER33GTS-T Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 (edited) Maybe this engine is just more efficient than all the others using the same turbos hence the higher power.... And saying that the 1/4 is the real dyno works to a degree if you have traction. But what if your running street tyres and no traction at all like Marks 32 could be wheel spinning across the line in 5th gear and still run under 120mph.... But we also have nice clean air down here in Tassie.... Edited November 22, 2012 by WHITER33GTS-T Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/251820-got-over-400kw-atw/page/116/#findComment-6636426 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hadouken Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 He also has a 2.8 maybe even a 3.0 bottom end. Different ball game to the normal 2.6 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/251820-got-over-400kw-atw/page/116/#findComment-6636570 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark-32 Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 He also has a 2.8 maybe even a 3.0 bottom end. Different ball game to the normal 2.6 Yet another keyboard god that knows everything from behind the computer screen just ask him.... Try geting some real world experience old boy instead of just reading the interwebs then thinking your an expert on everything Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/251820-got-over-400kw-atw/page/116/#findComment-6636612 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark-32 Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Maybe this engine is just more efficient than all the others using the same turbos hence the higher power.... And saying that the 1/4 is the real dyno works to a degree if you have traction. But what if your running street tyres and no traction at all like Marks 32 could be wheel spinning across the line in 5th gear and still run under 120mph.... But we also have nice clean air down here in Tassie.... The clean air must help a shit-load Rob, and you know better that anyone a lot of cars have been on that dyno and he's not the sort of bloke to produce stupid unrealistic dyno results. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/251820-got-over-400kw-atw/page/116/#findComment-6636633 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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