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mad082, if you consider the 'sound' of a car racing simulator to be categorised as a wank factor then go to time zone & play Daytona.

I put sound up there just as imortant as the handling physics of a game. Graphics I put at the bottom! I'd much prefer playing a racing game with pixelized graphics where the car handling physics are just like real life and give me goosebumps listening to them over a game with crystal clear real life graphics & cars that sound like vacuume cleaners.

The first time I played Forza, was Forza 3. And I tell you what, I lost my mind. I felt like spitting on my PS3 and snapping my GT5 Prologue disc in half afterwards because of it. (all because of the sound!!) Hearing the depth of detail of the Supra smashing the rev limiter absolutely blew me away. For the first time I actually enjoyed just driving the car straight in a racing game just because the sound was so realistic. The physics of Forza also were just unreal - sooooooooooooooooooooooooo far advanced over GT5.

In every Gran Turismo I've played, you can rev limit 5th spinning in a 600hp Supra and the car stays straight??? hmmmmmmmmm. In forza, once the car breaks traction, it naturally steps out making you have to control the car. If the cars dont naturally do this in GT5, ill find it bl**dy HILARIOUS after 4 years of work.

ok there is a few things here to address. yes i don't think having perfect to real life sound makes a game better than game with not as realistic sound. if it makes that much difference to you then fine, but i think you are just being picky. when i'm racing i hear the sounds of the car, but i'm not 'listening' to it. that is why it doesn't bother me. the other thing is, the quality of the speakers you are using make a huge difference.

secondly, the wheelspin thing, if you are going along a straight road in 5th gear and get wheelspin, the car won't always step out. it can in fact keep going in a straight line without stepping out at all. i've seen plenty of v8 supercar racing in the wet where they have been getting wheelspin on the straights and never had to make an ajustment to the steering. if the road is off camber or you are turning then it will step out.

mad082. Please hop into a 600hp Supra. Rev and dump 3rd gear off the line, then flat change 4th continuing the wheel spin and tell me if your car stays straight.

I dont care what road it is. Your car WILL NOT stay straight.

Guessing you've never driven a powerful rear wheel drive car with an LSD or locked diff.

mad082. Please hop into a 600hp Supra. Rev and dump 3rd gear off the line, then flat change 4th continuing the wheel spin and tell me if your car stays straight.

I dont care what road it is. Your car WILL NOT stay straight.

Guessing you've never driven a powerful rear wheel drive car with an LSD or locked diff.

haha what a coincidence i was just reading a HPI magazine after finding it next too all my ps3 games, and your car is in it, sweet ride :thumbsup:

BACK ON TOPIC, ill probs get it tonight so should i go online or wait until thursday, cause i might get caught and all??????

mad082. Please hop into a 600hp Supra. Rev and dump 3rd gear off the line, then flat change 4th continuing the wheel spin and tell me if your car stays straight.

I dont care what road it is. Your car WILL NOT stay straight.

Guessing you've never driven a powerful rear wheel drive car with an LSD or locked diff.

dumping off the line is hardly the same as getting wheelspin at high speed. there was no mention of dumping off the line in the post i was refering to. if there had been i would have replied differently as i am well aware of how the rear end moves around.

Forza is a great game... the tweaks you can do to the car's setup can really be felt when driving, pretty impressive stuff... pity after my 2nd RROD I binned the 360 and bought a PS3:( hopefully GT5 is even better... if its anything like the Prologue I'm burning the PS3

hopefully GT5 is even better... if its anything like the Prologue I'm burning the PS3

and just what the hell was so disastrously wrong with prologue? if they made any sort of improvement over that i'll be well impressed.

and im pretty sure the sound will be awesome.. the sound on prologue was awesome, and incredibly realistic. someone mentioned that the quality of your speakers makes a huge difference, well i have a very good quality amp and speakers (new in 1996, and was expensive) that have remarkable sound really. similar stuff you buy these days for the same money produce sound with nowhere near the clarity and depth that these things do. so i'd say anyone complaining about prologue's sound is probably using poor quality audio equipment. i used to sell stereos and the like up until a couple years ago and im here to say most audio stuff these days is absolute crap. unless your willing to part with a lot of cash.

I don't know what you're talking about :blink:

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needs more monitors

and just what the hell was so disastrously wrong with prologue? if they made any sort of improvement over that i'll be well impressed.

and im pretty sure the sound will be awesome.. the sound on prologue was awesome, and incredibly realistic. someone mentioned that the quality of your speakers makes a huge difference, well i have a very good quality amp and speakers (new in 1996, and was expensive) that have remarkable sound really. similar stuff you buy these days for the same money produce sound with nowhere near the clarity and depth that these things do. so i'd say anyone complaining about prologue's sound is probably using poor quality audio equipment. i used to sell stereos and the like up until a couple years ago and im here to say most audio stuff these days is absolute crap. unless your willing to part with a lot of cash.

exactly right. when i bought my surround system i listened to quite a few different systems. those cheap dvd player surround systems have terrible speakers, as do a most tv's. my system isn't top of the line, but it is a sony component amp with floor standing front speaker and book shelf type rears and a good sub. the system retailed for about $1300 (i paid much less than that thanks to someone writing the wrong price on the sign for the speakers), and it sounds great. the standard speakers in the tv are terrible, so that is why i bought it. even just watching tv it sounds much better.

And why do we NEVER hear external wastegates in car games? lol.

i dont think many games companies want to encourage that kind of shit. bogans/rednecks arent the key demographic they'r going for.

wastegates vented to atmo sound horrible IMO. the sole reason to do that is to attract attention to yourself from all the wrong sorts of people, be it the police or other hectics like yourself..

Edited by jonboy

just rang the shop i'm getting it from to find out if they have it yet so i can pick it up on my way to work in the morning. they don't have it yet but are going to call me if they get it. otherwise i will have leave work a bit earlier tomorrow arvo. they said that they didn't get one of the NFS games (i think) until release day (that used to happen a bit when i worked at toywold as well. ps2 consoles we didn't get until lunch time of release day).

wonder if there's any shops planning on doing midnight release that will have to call it off because of not having stock?

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