Motor Magazine Extreme Tuners

[LSX-438]

Anyone interested might like to pick up a copy. Entertaining reading. Apparently all cars have been modded, some seriously (however the GTR ran basically stock times at the 1/4 mile, despite being tuned...). They ran some laps of Oran Park too... The GTR was beaten by the GT2 and Porsche by 0.5s and 0.2s respectively. The thing is, the GT2 was running hoosier r6's (basically slicks) and the Turbo was runninng Formula R Toyos. The GTR was running the OEM Bridgestones.... Why you would install $50k in mods and then run standard bridgestones isnt quite reality (if you're seriously interested in lap times that is). i know for a fact that the bridgestones are 2 seconds slower than r-specs on the GP circuit, which would easily translate into 1 second on south. Anyway, interesting reading nonetheless, but i reckon the GTR would have easily beaten the South times with equivilent tyres. In fact, i reckon even a standard GTR would have kicked the modded GT2 and Turbo's arses collectively, given the same tyres. Amazing really, given the price!

Edited September 20, 2009 by LSX-438

[R32_GODZILLA]

I seen that in the newsagent last time I was browsing. Covers a whole lot of the magazine and seemed like a good read, might just pick up a copy next time I go in. BTW that black GT-R looked gorgeous with the zele kit!

[bigslick]

I had just a quick flick through at the shop and noticed the power output listed of the "modified" GT-R... 258awkW estimated.

Don't they come with near 300awkW as standard? What are they doing??

[09GTR]

I had just a quick flick through at the shop and noticed the power output listed of the "modified" GT-R... 258awkW estimated.

Don't they come with near 300awkW as standard? What are they doing??

That car would've had somewhere approaching 345 at the wheels. They must have had Dyno dramas with it and stuffed up the estimate. I was surprised how slow it was given these mods. White 35 has 345 at the wheels and is pulling 3.3 0 - 100. Duncan did a 11.1 quarter mile in his with similar mods. My Mods were also a lot cheaper, and produced much better results also.

Maybe they babied the car, or it was hot, or boost was turned low...or something.

[LSX-438]

It says somewhere in the article they had dramas removing the carbon undertray which meant they couldnt dyno the car, probably due to clearance issues (or maybe they didnt want to get it dirty, lol). Maybe it has an aftermarket undertray? anyway i removed my complete undertray in my garage with $2 tools, so dunno what's up with that. And yeah it should have about 340awkw. Their estimates are a bit rubbery. Interesting article though.

[Martin Donnon]

You dont remove undertrays to dyno the GTR....at least we dont

The whole thing sounds a little odd...

[handbrake]

anyone read the letters to the editor section? pity there was no editorial response to your letter Munro

[poppin13b]

I have the mag,

Reasons for slow times are due to the owner not letting them use launch control and as mentioned above stock rubber.

Hardly seems worth while entering a car in that type of comp then saying no to using all the gizmos on the car like launch control.

FYI check out the Golf R32 that city performance entered, $70k in mods, bloody crazy.

[Munro]

Yeah, that guy's letter in the August issue (Porshe choice) got me fired up & thought

I would say something! They always cut down the text though & made it read a bit nicer

than what I put down - haha. I suppose the response was that they printed it (my 2nd time)

Its a shame Willall couldnt get the Silver R35 with the Turbo upgrade in that shootout -

that would have been quite interesting. Nice body parts & all the internal goodies as well.

Yes it was a good article. Motor have been doing lots of "tuner" articles over the last few

years & it is the only magazine I buy regularly.

I agree about the launch - whats the point in putting it in but saying dont go for it?

Surely one or two full launches wont hurt it ( ah hem.. I have done a few with my full

JDM launch control with no problems)

[skyline_man]

I have the mag,

Reasons for slow times are due to the owner not letting them use launch control and as mentioned above stock rubber.

Hardly seems worth while entering a car in that type of comp then saying no to using all the gizmos on the car like launch control.

FYI check out the Golf R32 that city performance entered, $70k in mods, bloody crazy.

Overly careful owners like that does not help the erroneous belief being passed around by GTR 'haters' that the GTR's transmission is 'fragile'

Surely one LC will not hurt the transmission - especially when it's the revised LC where warranty is not void so long as VDC is not turned off.

[Godcla]

Yep....Good reading........... but 13k for the exhoust 20something k for Body Kit.......?

[juggernaut1]

I had just a quick flick through at the shop and noticed the power output listed of the "modified" GT-R... 258awkW estimated.

Don't they come with near 300awkW as standard? What are they doing??

From my memory of that article their estimates were based on a 30% drivetrain loss.....which sounds unusually high...obviously resulting in the lower rwks.

[Munro]

Willall just dynoed my R35 JDM on their 4 wheel dyno & it made 278 awkw standard.

Now waiting for results from new custom COBB tune with boost control. It is not unusual

for cars to vary on power level depending on kays & type of dyno used.

[09GTR]

Willall just dynoed my R35 JDM on their 4 wheel dyno & it made 278 awkw standard.

Now waiting for results from new custom COBB tune with boost control. It is not unusual

for cars to vary on power level depending on kays & type of dyno used.

what was the boost level?

[Munro]

I dont know, but now has 331awkw. Yipee........

[LSX-438]

Some of you may remember this shootout. An R35, with apparently $50k in mods, ran a 46.7 around Oran Park South. It was running the stocker bridgestone tyres. I think it was John Bowe driving. Compared to a 911T running 888's (46.5) and a GT2 running Hoosier A6's - which are essentially slicks, running the best time of 46.2.... ALL cars had various mods. The tyre thing gave me the shits though (i mean really, a GT2 on slicks vs an R35 on stocker bridgestones).

Anyway, i had a chance to run Oran Park South in my R35 with slicks recently....

Result=46.3

Now, i dont have $50k in mods, and i am not John Bowe. I have less than $10k in mods (Willall midpipe, tune, 18" wheels and tyres). In fact, it's about $5k really, as i was using cheapie 2nd hand slicks on the day. Michelin p-cup 270/68/18's.

What does this tell us?

a) The GTR is one awesome machine, proven capable and comparable to the 911T and GT2 at a fraction of the cost.

b) You dont need to spend $50k on mods, in fact you'll probably make it go slower (if done merely for bling factor)

c) For track excursions, the No.1 most important mod is... TYRES.

Edited November 14, 2009 by LSX-438

[Martin Donnon]

What he said

(See above)

[09GTR]

Some of you may remember this shootout. An R35, with apparently $50k in mods, ran a 46.7 around Oran Park South. It was running the stocker bridgestone tyres. I think it was John Bowe driving. Compared to a 911T running 888's (46.5) and a GT2 running Hoosier A6's - which are essentially slicks, running the best time of 46.2.... ALL cars had various mods. The tyre thing gave me the shits though (i mean really, a GT2 on slicks vs an R35 on stocker bridgestones).

Anyway, i had a chance to run Oran Park South in my R35 with slicks recently....

Result=46.3

Now, i dont have $50k in mods, and i am not John Bowe. I have less than $10k in mods (Willall midpipe, tune, 18" wheels and tyres). In fact, it's about $5k really, as i was using cheapie 2nd hand slicks on the day. Michelin p-cup 270/68/18's.

What does this tell us?

a) The GTR is one awesome machine, proven capable and comparable to the 911T and GT2 at a fraction of the cost.

b) You dont need to spend $50k on mods, in fact you'll probably make it go slower (if done merely for bling factor)

c) For track excursions, the No.1 most important mod is... TYRES.

Agreed, in fact I have 19 inch Volks on the way wrapped in Hoosiers - look out Bathurst a two twenty something is in my sights...

[Takahashi GTR]

374 kw to be exact

[LSX-438]

Pretty obvious why they had crappy 1/4 mile (and 0~100) times