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I am not saying the stewards need to give them a penalty. Or wishing we only had 8 cars racign because it means Webber would have won.

What I am saying is that in years past some of them would have bogged it in the sand trap and not have gotten out. Some would have spun their tyres and blown 30 seconds trying to get out. Webber coul dhave cery easily been one of the guys in the sand trap too....if there was one there. And I am not sayign put a wall up to damage cars either...

But when you are hopelessly out braking yourself on a damp first lap, when you have loads of run off which you maybe gain time by using....well they are going to use it.

..and personally, i went off there about 3 times in the Caterham until i got my braking point right! I am betting in the Exige I will have an off there as well as it sucks you in and you want to be a hero and go later on the brakes then anyone else :) So brign the sandtraps back after Tues 14th :D Oh, there is a fine for havign to get towed out of the traps and a fine for fixing the paint damage....so lets not find Snowie-Hamo corner!

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what... the fuck?

yeah that was 100% bullshit. I'd like to see webber or someone roll up to the front row and then take an extra half a car length... if you can't stop an F1 car on a line you really shouldn't be driving.

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..and personally, i went off there about 3 times in the Caterham until i got my braking point right! I am betting in the Exige I will have an off there as well as it sucks you in and you want to be a hero and go later on the brakes then anyone else :) So brign the sandtraps back after Tues 14th :D Oh, there is a fine for havign to get towed out of the traps and a fine for fixing the paint damage....so lets not find Snowie-Hamo corner!

hmm, d'oh. how come we get fined for recovery costs from sand trap and bloody F1 drivers get a free tow? they've got it arse backwards. if anyone can afford a couple hundred euro for a tow it's those guys. and we are on bloody struggle street here!

plus we are far more likely to end up there what with our sub-F1 skill levels. it's all a bloody conspiracy.

Marlin Grand Master

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I watched it again last night and a couple of things really burned into my brain.

1. Lewis really did deserve the win (I know Mark was unlucky with his clutch issues at the formation/start). I know he was lucky with the gravel trap, but he stayed calm, and eased it through and out. Nice work. Many others would have panicked before leaving the track and made a bad situation much worse.

2. Mark really has a look these days, a look that he knows he can do it. Just watching him during the post race question time while Lewis was talking I think he's never been more on top of his game.

3. Kubica really has a rotten pill on him.

4. Lewis is doing a good job of endearing himself to me for the first time I can recall. Is he maturing, or just being more honest? Or does he just have me bluffed?

DRD-00F Grand Master

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Nah, I was actually happy for the first time that Hamilton won... He really did deserve it.

He also seems to let his driving do the talking for him rather then his mouth (opposite of vetool) and thats really easy to respect.

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Did anyone notice when they where on the blocks at the end. Hammo and the other guy from Maclaren getting the constructors trophy (name escapes me) where all up there.

He was patting Hammo on the back and reached across and patted Mark as well over each others shoulders. Its great sportsmanship like this that really makes it hard to hate Maclaren as a team. I also envy Mark his obvious mates in F1. Must be a great club to be in.

Vetool must feel like a parking inspector at a party. Standing in the corner with no one talking to him.

Marlin Grand Master

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Haha, I did notice that :)

Amazing the turn around I've had personally toward Vetool. Beginning of the season I was talking him up, loved the smile on his face, now I just wanna wipe it off for him.

And going back to your guy's earlier discussion, I too think the tracks are far too forgiving these days. But unfortunately, we can never go back to the days of ripping wheels off whenever they made a mistake (except Monaco, it somehow gets a sabatical). Although the "Supertrack" rot had begun to set in prior, I think Senna's death was the turning point to a concerted effort to make the tracks safer to the point of boredom.

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Haha, I did notice that :P

Amazing the turn around I've had personally toward Vetool. Beginning of the season I was talking him up, loved the smile on his face, now I just wanna wipe it off for him.

And going back to your guy's earlier discussion, I too think the tracks are far too forgiving these days. But unfortunately, we can never go back to the days of ripping wheels off whenever they made a mistake (except Monaco, it somehow gets a sabatical). Although the "Supertrack" rot had begun to set in prior, I think Senna's death was the turning point to a concerted effort to make the tracks safer to the point of boredom.

I am loving all the ze-tool hate that's bubbling up these days. I've been a passionate hater of the little bastard child ever since he punted my mate webber up the jacksie in japan. that was not cool. it cost webber are sure second place and a possible (probable?) win as he was much faster than the only car ahead of him in the wet.

anyway, thankfully the knuckle head hasn't improved and everyone can now see what a spoilt little monkey he is.

and yeah mark certainly does seem to be well liked and respected amongst the F1 drivers and other people in the business. He has gone about his career the right way, no back stabs, speaks his mind, earned his place in every team he drove with and puts 100% into the sport. on top of that he dedicates a lot of time to issues related to F1 like safety etc, drivers rights and of course spent a fair while as president of the GPDA (GP drivers association) which in itself shows his position amongst the drivers. he's a hard bloke not to like.

Roy Grand Master

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I have to say, not the worlds greatest Button fan but i think Hamo has learned a lot from him, he had grown up a little and I am actually starting to like the guy. Something I would never have said 18 months ago. I think he learnt a lot last year and knows how tuff it can be....so not as arrogant anymore.

Plus, he has dropped all the hip-hop talk and attitude, now when he speaks he sounds like a car geek that just loves thrashing cars....that i like a lot more. I also wonder how much Whitmarsh and his change at the top has meant for the drivers and some freedoms.

But, he still annoys me when he says he has a car slower then RBR, Ferrari and Renault-Mercedes whenever he qualifies off the front two rows "We showed today we are only 4th quickest this season" blah, blah, blah. The car isnt as good as quick as an RBR, but its not far off. And on certain tracks is probably the better race ...but you would be mad to take a 2010 McLaren over a 2010 RBR

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I have to say, not the worlds greatest Button fan but i think Hamo has learned a lot from him, he had grown up a little and I am actually starting to like the guy. Something I would never have said 18 months ago. I think he learnt a lot last year and knows how tuff it can be....so not as arrogant anymore.

Plus, he has dropped all the hip-hop talk and attitude, now when he speaks he sounds like a car geek that just loves thrashing cars....that i like a lot more. I also wonder how much Whitmarsh and his change at the top has meant for the drivers and some freedoms.

But, he still annoys me when he says he has a car slower then RBR, Ferrari and Renault-Mercedes whenever he qualifies off the front two rows "We showed today we are only 4th quickest this season" blah, blah, blah. The car isnt as good as quick as an RBR, but its not far off. And on certain tracks is probably the better race ...but you would be mad to take a 2010 McLaren over a 2010 RBR

The castration of international race circuits has been going on for over a decade, it's a complete joke, FOM and the people with interests in the show are trying to make it more of an 'arena' type sport much much more commercial then it already is.

Just look at what Nascar is and you may realise that it's a slippery slope.

Tilke is almost single handedly responsible for the desecration of formerly amazing racing circuits, as is FOM for taking the sport away from it's primary market and homeland.

obviously expansion is good for the sport, but not at the cost of it's fundamentals.

As for Webber, been saying it for years the guy is top tier and only now is he getting the recognition he deserves, people don't realise what kind of disadvantage coming from australia puts you in when your starting a career in motorsport.

sh@un Grand Master

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sh@un because you my nigz, i got you a new desktop pic

http://www.f1fotos.be/races2010/belgie/bel...10-A%20(82).jpg

... hot-damn

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that US GP track looks promosing- 40 metres worth of elevation change! looks like a hill climb at the end of the main straight

Marlin Grand Master

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Very interesting!

The uphill braking zone on the straght with kill overtaing moved there though, but my Lordy son of rajab they'll be going in deep! :D

Beer Baron loves it deep I heard ...... who woulda thunk it?

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balls deep or nothing.

circuit looks ok. bit mickey mouse though like all tilke crap. I guess the esses on the straight might be half quick but the rest is typical tilke. lots of tighening radius corners (lame), lots of 'technical' stuff. no high speed balls out corners like ohh spa for instance.

I reckon that track would work better in reverse direction.

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