MrStabby Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Means that HKS have done more then just put their actuators on garrett -9s? The add doesnt mention -9s - that's something you've read into it. You appear to have assumed the HKS statements are in comparison to -9s, which is not correct. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/322850-garrett-gt2860-9s/page/15/#findComment-6604712 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moodles2 Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 do the GTSS's still carry different internal specs over the -9s? No. They come out the same factory(s) (Garrett's factories around the world, my -9's came from their Mexico factory etc), it wouldn't make sense if Garrett built the entire complete turbo to HKS' specs (minus actuator), and then for HKS to just go and open them up and change it again. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/322850-garrett-gt2860-9s/page/15/#findComment-6605205 Share on other sites More sharing options...
R31Nismoid Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Not doing English correctly?! At no point did I mention that they are magically bigger. I am basically only asking whether this sentence: The clearance and shape of the compressor wheel, compressor housing and turbo housing are redesigned to optimum specs. Means that HKS have done more then just put their actuators on garrett -9s? Yes you did, you copied the ad - which is comparing GT-SS to factory turbos. NOT to Garrett -9s HKS and Garrett items are identical. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/322850-garrett-gt2860-9s/page/15/#findComment-6605213 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anz32GTR Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 i got gtss, i always thought gtss are abit better then -9s. i also remember reading up on them befor i got the turbos and i think they are rated with abit more power then the -9s. i could be wrong. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/322850-garrett-gt2860-9s/page/15/#findComment-6605303 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hadouken Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 What nismoid is saying and noone is hearing. The specs of the 2 turbos are the same. Which makes them the same turbo with one have twice the price tag. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/322850-garrett-gt2860-9s/page/15/#findComment-6605333 Share on other sites More sharing options...
M34N-R Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 No. They come out the same factory(s) (Garrett's factories around the world, my -9's came from their Mexico factory etc), it wouldn't make sense if Garrett built the entire complete turbo to HKS' specs (minus actuator), and then for HKS to just go and open them up and change it again. Cheers Lance I didnt know garrett made the turbo to HKS SPECS, i asumed that HKS got the turbo's from garrett and from that sentence i posted earlier... I misconstrued to be HKS putting their own internals in. (Just like -5s to 2530s) Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/322850-garrett-gt2860-9s/page/15/#findComment-6605358 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anz32GTR Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 yet the hks gtss are ment to flow better as the specs on the net say and hold boost better. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/322850-garrett-gt2860-9s/page/15/#findComment-6605359 Share on other sites More sharing options...
R31Nismoid Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Anyone that says GT-SS & -9s are different, is full of shit. The only difference is the actuator - HKS supply it with the kit. With Garrett you need to order. GT-SS were under licence from Garrett for a few years, and thus -9s only came onto the market by Garrett around 3-4 years ago where previously you could ONLY by then from HKS - with the ridiculous mark up. 2530s and -5s however there IS a difference in the wheels, and this is signified by the different CHRA numbers and ID tags. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/322850-garrett-gt2860-9s/page/15/#findComment-6605365 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dada Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 Hks Gtss CHRA = 446179-65 Garrett -9 CHRA =446179-65 Same CHRA number means same ball bearing center WITH same size/spec wheels attached, and as we already know the comp and turbine housings have the same A/R between the two..... Sooo.....Go have a beer, and reminisce on the good ole days Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/322850-garrett-gt2860-9s/page/15/#findComment-6607354 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hadouken Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 This thread definitely needs to become a sticky. Make it so ash! Make it so Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/322850-garrett-gt2860-9s/page/15/#findComment-6607474 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 Out of interest I was told by a turbo whore friend who used to have a bedroom full of car parts that the HKS turbo use a steel ball bearing cage where as the Garret are plastic. Any truth to it or maybe that was one of the things that differentiated the 2530 and -5s Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/322850-garrett-gt2860-9s/page/15/#findComment-6608241 Share on other sites More sharing options...
R31Nismoid Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 Can't be if they are the same part number. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/322850-garrett-gt2860-9s/page/15/#findComment-6611637 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 Are 2530s and -5s the same part number? They were the ones he was specifically talking about and I made the assumption it could/would be the case with other HKS-Garret equiv turbz Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/322850-garrett-gt2860-9s/page/15/#findComment-6612376 Share on other sites More sharing options...
R31Nismoid Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 No they are not, -5s and 2530 have never been. The only difference is the 2530 has a larger compressor wheel and a HKS stamped front housing. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/322850-garrett-gt2860-9s/page/15/#findComment-6612882 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1300 Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 Hey all, hope I have posted in the right section I have a Gt28rs on my R33 series 1 Im have trouble fitting the factory air intake pipe to the front housing of the turbo. What is eveyone using??? Thanks in advance Gav Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/322850-garrett-gt2860-9s/page/15/#findComment-6614431 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moodles2 Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 GT2860-9's are twin GTR turbos A GT2860RS is a Disco potato aka an SR turbo, if you wanted bolton for a RB, then you've got the wrong turbo. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/322850-garrett-gt2860-9s/page/15/#findComment-6614494 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1300 Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 (edited) Ok thank you GOJIR4, I just saw the GT2860 and thought I was in the right place. Yes I'm aware that the turbo is not a bolt on, the reason for my queston was because the factory air intake was on when the car was bought. I guess thats why its now carcked and has a rough idle, some one has fitted a 2.5 over a 3inch (must have heated it up). Edited November 7, 2012 by 1300 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/322850-garrett-gt2860-9s/page/15/#findComment-6614714 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marko R1 Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 Thread bump. Great thread guys! Ive had -5s and GTSS, the -5s felt exhilarating whereas the GTSS IMO were boring. But like many have suggested, depends on your application. I'm pulling off my GTRS snails at the moment...what fun that is working out of the engine bay. Mine is far from a weekender which is sad but true. GTSS setup made 325awkw @ 23psi -5 setup made 340rwkw @ 19psi (I question this though as that number sounds a bit high, maybe a happy dyno?) Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/322850-garrett-gt2860-9s/page/15/#findComment-6739828 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piggaz Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 Thread bump. Great thread guys! Ive had -5s and GTSS, the -5s felt exhilarating whereas the GTSS IMO were boring. But like many have suggested, depends on your application. I'm pulling off my GTRS snails at the moment...what fun that is working out of the engine bay. Mine is far from a weekender which is sad but true. GTSS setup made 325awkw @ 23psi -5 setup made 340rwkw @ 19psi (I question this though as that number sounds a bit high, maybe a happy dyno?) Throw those RS' s in the dumpster where they belong!!!! If anything, that's a tad on the lower side. Ash made 365 ish at around 19 psi IIRC. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/322850-garrett-gt2860-9s/page/15/#findComment-6740019 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sydking Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 Thread bump. Great thread guys! Ive had -5s and GTSS, the -5s felt exhilarating whereas the GTSS IMO were boring. But like many have suggested, depends on your application. I'm pulling off my GTRS snails at the moment...what fun that is working out of the engine bay. Mine is far from a weekender which is sad but true. GTSS setup made 325awkw @ 23psi -5 setup made 340rwkw @ 19psi (I question this though as that number sounds a bit high, maybe a happy dyno?) Reading posts like this always makes me wonder if i went the right way with my -9's Dam you!! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/322850-garrett-gt2860-9s/page/15/#findComment-6740103 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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