Worst Driver Of The Week

[bombtrack]

It is if the lisp comes with it!

[eMsta]

just to let you all know - it wasnt my jazz

[Basti]

i just started reading this thread and i was thinking exactly that matt

[Basti]

also utmost respect to nurses. i have learnt more from some nurses than from a lot of my clinical teachers (doctors). you guys really are underappreciated.

people who are saying nursing pay is good have obviously no experience with the health industry

[Birds]

It really freaked me out when my nurse told me she advises the doctor on what to administer a patient, because it's the nurses who are supposedto know the patients and required medication/doses!

[Basti]

hahaha doctors are sometimes only needed for the signature on the medication chart. gotta start practicing

[xALmoN]

hahaha doctors are sometimes only needed for the signature on the medication chart. gotta start practicing

when are you getting commissioned?

sometimes, i might need someone to sign off on some med certs when i suddenly dont feel like going to school/work =D

[frozenpod]

that's not actually how it works mate... that kinda money will only ever come from constant night duty and/or working in a shithouse nursing home... both horrible jobs

the only other option for that kind money is managing a ward/home (and that's management... NOT nursing)

nursing is an underpaid job no matter how you look at it... and I think i'm qalified to comment as my girlfriend is a... waitforit... NURSE!

i'm a chef... and i can tell you my bank account isn't the same as gordon ramsay's (although everyone seems to think it will be)

one example is NOT indicative of any profession

10k more than a teacher 5k more than engineer/scientists straight out of school and easily can make more with overtime.... not exactly something worth complaining about and it is now considered above average for someone with a degree.

In terms of it being a shit job there are plenty of other jobs I can think of which are much worse some make less some make a little more such as picking fruit, cleaner, garbo, plumber. What is much more important is the skill required to do the job, almost anyone can be a cleaner but only a few can be nurses, engineers, doctors ect

I can only say regarding a chef that from two people I know who are chefs that they make around 80k which is again above average and certainly nothing worth complaining about particularly as you don't end up with a HECS/HELP debt and are paid all the way through unlike paying for a degree over 4 years making zip. They have different hrs some would argue are crap hrs but they suit some people and this certainly hasn't stopped there being enough chefs and there hrs are a lot better than truck drivers, bakers ect.

This argument could go on forever weight up every single point the long and short of it is they are on a pretty good wicket and can make big $$$$ if they are prepaired to work.

[Peter89]

watched a taxi driver reverse up warrigal road, around midday. i blasted him with my air-horns to avoid him. im sure he got the message.

edit: fk im tired. thought this was post the worst driver of the week

Edited September 14, 2010 by Peter89

[Birds]

Thread is now about nurses and why we should give them more kish.

You can't be comparing jobs that deal with preservation of human life and jobs that don't, they're on different levels...not higher...just different. There are more than just extrinsic stresses when dealing with the human condition, you can't just turn off emotion and work like a robot like you can with most jobs, nursing requires both. When you leave your job as a chef or engineer etc, most of the time what happens at work doesn't stay with you for the trip home and into the night either.

The best argument is that there is a shortage of healthcare professionals...this happens for a reason, the appeal to the job is less than the requirement for it.

[HEKT1K]

i'm a chef... and i can tell you my bank account isn't the same as gordon ramsay's (although everyone seems to think it will be)

one example is NOT indicative of any profession

maybe you should start abusing people more. yeah, that ought to work.

more guys should do nursing, heaps of wimmenz in the course my mate does it and loves it

[VSPECT]

maybe you should start abusing people more. yeah, that ought to work.

more guys should do nursing, heaps of wimmenz in the course my mate does it and loves it

hahaha...same with physcology bro...heaps of HOT ladiess.....

[Birds]

I can attest to that. When I did psychology at university I was the only male in my class of 20 lol. It wasn't as good as it sounds, you tend to be on your own when it comes to battle of the sexes arguments. Evolutionary psychology ftl

[bozodos]

oh yeah there's nursing courses at work, n there are some fine ass bbws in the div1 classes! div2 is a bet meh though

[joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo]

I can only say regarding a chef that from two people I know who are chefs that they make around 80k which is again above average and certainly nothing worth complaining about particularly as you don't end up with a HECS/HELP debt and are paid all the way through unlike paying for a degree over 4 years making zip. They have different hrs some would argue are crap hrs but they suit some people and this certainly hasn't stopped there being enough chefs and there hrs are a lot better than truck drivers, bakers ect.

This argument could go on forever weight up every single point the long and short of it is they are on a pretty good wicket and can make big $$$$ if they are prepaired to work.

you have NO FUCKING IDEA what you are on about... so it's probably best not to get into this argument mate...

80k is a head chef role, which takes years to get to...and is not indicative of what a chef earns... and even then, few head chef's are on that much. and only say.. 1 in 10 chefs even make it to running a kitchen.

the average chef wage is around $15 an hour for a qualfied trade...

to get a qualification you need to do an apprenticeship... first year rate is $7.20 an hour, even less back when i did it.

try paying rent on that wage.... and you cant just do another job on the side like a uni student, cos most apprentice chefs are already doing 60+ hours

now before you get on your high horse and say that 60X7.20=432=rent... bear in mind that most serious restaurants stop paying at 38 hours and the rest is just free... so 38x7.20=$273 a week.

if you want to work in a hatted restaurant in order to get the skills required for serious cheffing, then you are looking at more like 80 hours for 38hrs pay

I used to work for Jacques Reymond as an apprentice, I was working a minimum of 5 and often 6 days a week from 9am to midnight, usually with no breaks and pay stopping @ 38 hours on the award rate. If you do manage a break, its around 10-15 minutes to eat... that's out of 15 hours non stop on your feet, literally running the whole time

now we all know it's illegal... but that's how it is if you want to be a real chef (not some douchebag running a pub)

why do you think chef's are always depicted as pissed off?

by all means, step into my world and take up an apprenticeship if you think it's so easy... otherwise don't talk shit about things you have no idea about

[bozodos]

fark working in hospitality for the reasons listed above lol

[Birds]

Fark working in hospitality in case you get Hamish as a boss lol. Massive sore spot!

Picture related: it's a fat version of Hamish right now.

[joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo]

Fater... :'(

[bozodos]

yeah I don't really understand the motivation of chefs, given the hours suck balls, the money sucks balls, generally your boss f**ks you over with hours/pay, you have to work your arse off etc.

Hammy isn't it expected that you will get fat in the course of your job?

[jezza boii]

On the subject of nursing, I think I might put in my 2 cents, seeing as I work in the industry myself (admin, not nursing).

It really depends on your hours, type of nursing and whether it's with an agency or not.

Agency nurses generally get paid more.

My workmate occasionally works a few nursing shifts for money on the side.

If he works 2 shifts - a Saturday and a Sunday - he will take home over $1000 clear.

Lately he has been doing Sunday shifts at $85 per hour.

I think that is ridiculously good money

If you don't mind working night-shift, a lot of nurses with us are rolling in $90k+ a year.

www.codeblue.com.au

www.ano.com.au

www.primenurses.com.au

If you or your partner are a nurse, get on it!!!