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Beer Baron
Beer Baron

nup, F40 for me too. even better go the hardcore F40 GTR or LM or whatever gay letters they put on the hardcorey one. for many years I wanted an F40 bad enough to make my balls ache. then I turned 13

zebra
zebra

f*kc it...let all sell our houses and buy a communal veyron...or Bugatti EB110 could take it in turns sleeping on the Engine deck

Beer Baron
Beer Baron

go nissan F1...

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wolverine Grand Master

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Anyone else think Nando just kept hitting button until it opened the flap? :laugh:

It is a bizarre explanation that DRS opened after the corner. This seems to suggest that it closed for the turn and magically re-opened for the next. Unlikely he ran with it open into the turn at the end of the straight.

hrd-hr30 Grand Master

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On hard tyres & no KERS vs all cars around him on the grid with soft tyres & KERS.

he had KERS until end of his second stint. And even in that second stint on his nice shiney new softs, he couldn't pass the Sauber or Force India who were right in front of him.

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Nee-san Grand Master

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No, but no one likes Kiwis :P

Put it this way, I saw Webber grab his first points back in the minardi and Ill see him get his last in a Red Bull.

Personally I like his attitude.

and from my standpoint, I enjoy watching races and I like most drivers, except a select one or two.

hrd-hr30 Grand Master

hrd-hr30

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Nah I don't think Webber is the second coming, but I don't use every possibility to put shit on him either.

It's just tall poppy syndrome, which is pretty rife in Australia.

don't see where I put shit on him. just pointing out the facts.

to be honest, Webber fans shit me to tears. If he doesn't do well there's a myriad excuses and cospiracy theories, then when he does OK its all down to him being the greatest, not the team's pit strategy, which in this case made 10 of the 15 positions for him.

Nee-san Grand Master

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It's more or less implied or outright stated in alot of peoples posts.

Now I'm not "sticking up" for Webber because boy was that qualy session was one major f**kup.

Just sick of hearing people rag on him because he IS Australian.

Lot of people on here are seriously jelly I think.

anyway.

Have you ever seen a raced or listened to the commentry.

Talk about Fanbois ?

the Lewis Hamilton cheer-squad are pretty much the biggest in the world, and they all follow their leader, James Allen.

iamhe77 Grand Master

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don't see where I put shit on him. just pointing out the facts.

to be honest, Webber fans shit me to tears. If he doesn't do well there's a myriad excuses and cospiracy theories, then when he does OK its all down to him being the greatest, not the team's pit strategy, which in this case made 10 of the 15 positions for him.

The "facts" can't be viewed objectively if you already have a negative viewpoint (nor if you have an overly positive viewpoint).

lol, nobody here is saying the Webber is the greatest nor even the most talented nor fastest driver in the field.

Yep, it is great to see an Aussie run with the top drivers in the premier auto racing competition... why the hell wouldn't it be?

I like his attitude and frankness much more than just hearing the same shit that most of the other drivers regurgitate.

This makes me want to see/hear from him more.

Yes, the pit strategy was a definite benefit, but how the hell can you imply that he did not provide us with an absolutely awesome drive?

Even DC and Brundle were saying how "mighty" his drive was.

Are you telling me that both drivers have equal opportunity at RBR?

Webber haters shit me to tears.

wolverine Grand Master

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he had KERS until end of his second stint. And even in that second stint on his nice shiney new softs, he couldn't pass the Sauber or Force India who were right in front of him.

Actually he didn't have KERS at all but keep selectively leaving out facts to support your case if you have to.

I like MW just fine, he is hardly the second coming of christ and he is hardly the worst driver in the field. He has worked his arse off, he has also had lots of luck, he has also had lots of bad luck, he had a charmed existence in Australia in karting days to get him to Europe ahead of more talented karters (at that stage) due to support from his family. He has been hamstrung by his frame as well.

There are no prizes for guessing that F1 does not attract the best drivers in the world, it attracts the best, richest, midgets. All get there due to support from somewhere, rarely is it on talent alone.

The last race worked out despite the poor qualifying, nothing more nothing less. Good on him for getting a good result out of a bad position.

It seems for MW he is damned if he does well, he is damned if he doesn't.

hrd-hr30 Grand Master

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The "facts" can't be viewed objectively if you already have a negative viewpoint (nor if you have an overly positive viewpoint).

like the "facts" the only reason he only couldn't pass the backmarkers was because he had no KERS and was on hards vs their softs? which were both wrong. he reported his KERS not working on lap 24. And he spent the 14 laps before that stuck behind a Sauber and a Force India while they were all on softs.

That's not me with a negative viewpoint. that's what happened in the race. You and wolverine on the other hand, just got all carried away with the webber excuse book.

Yes, the pit strategy was a definite benefit, but how the hell can you imply that he did not provide us with an absolutely awesome drive?

Even DC and Brundle were saying how "mighty" his drive was.

Are you telling me that both drivers have equal opportunity at RBR?

Webber haters shit me to tears.

I haven't seen anything to suggest that both drivers don't have the same equipment at RBR. The fact he was the fastest car in the race by 1.4 sec shows there was nothing wrong with his car during qualifying. its parc ferme between then and the race apart from fuel, and tyre choice for those outside the top 10.

I think it was a good drive, but the facts are the passes he made (not counting the ones that re-passed him on the track) were:

Petrov on hards with Mark on Softs. Not awesome. Schumacher passed Petrov easier a lap earlier.

Schumacher: Mark blew past him up the straight due to a much faster car and DRS. A couple of guys nursing worn out tyres after 2 stopping and a guy even people with stuffed tyres passed because he was trying not to run out of fuel.

It was a good drive, but far and away the main factors were awesome pit strategy (something the Weber apologists often quick to blame when he doesn't do well) and better rubber than everyone else.

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hrd-hr30 Grand Master

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Actually he didn't have KERS at all but keep selectively leaving out facts to support your case if you have to.

if he had no KERS at all, his radio message to the team that he had no KERS on lap 24 seems quite strange.

iamhe77 Grand Master

iamhe77

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like the "facts" the only reason he only couldn't pass the backmarkers was because he had no KERS and was on hards vs their softs? which were both wrong. he reported his KERS not working on lap 24. And he spent the 14 laps before that stuck behind a Sauber and a Force India while they were all on softs.

That's not me with a negative viewpoint. that's what happened in the race. You and wolverine on the other hand, just got all carried away with the webber excuse book.

Where did these "fact" come from?

I don't recall saying anything about why he couldn't pass back markers.

I would love to see him drive the whole race in the same manor he did the second half of it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEkDS4cCqUk

The KERS not working radio call came though mid-race, yes, but it was the drive thereafter that was so great to watch.

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