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well, got a quote from hollinger for a "kit" $19,400+gst for the 6 speed r33 seq. with shift indicator, wiring harness ect ect. After the time and money spent on this POS, it seems i shoulda gone that way in the first place :( Awaiting a quote from modena and feedback from a few ppl usung them.

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yeah you know the deal. like you say people happily spend $20K on engine bits, or $10K on a paint job etc. From memory a full monty PPG with all the upgrade bits etc is $10-$12K by the time it's installed in a box and set-up. so the hollinger is not that big a step up, and don't forget with the PPG or PAR you have to sacrifice your own box too. where as with the hollinger if you have a working box you can sell it and put that $1K-$1.5K towards the price of the hollinger.

yeah they guy who i bought it off had a reciept for 12.5k... and if someone buys mine i will have enough for the hollinger...

modena are good. but mainly porsche. what about albins?

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atm we have ditched some timing and boost out of it, due to the gearbox dramas and we are making 390 whp. when the tune is given the stick again it will see around 450-470whp. The car is driven on the weekends and does the hillclimbs and friday nights at the drags, when ever i get it working. But like i stated in the previous post, it will be getting built in the coming months/year with either a nitto or BC stroker kit and a top end job to suit.

As for the giken box, i know. People swear by them, but would you want a box designed primarily for street use behind something that sees regular hillclimb/khana/test and tune events?

Thats the question i asked myself and imo, the answer was no

Mate i could give you a LONG list of cars running in hill climbs/rally events (targa and the like) that ALL run the factory gearboxes.

All of them are totally and utterly fine. The odd car might break a box here/there, but in the grand scheme of things when a box costs around 800 - it'll take you 10 years before you've come close to spending Holinger money.

If you are only making 450rwhp, a PAR gearbox is a waste of money for a start.

OS gearset is massively stronger again. I can't even say I've heard of someone breaking one and there are plenty of people running 400-600rwkw through them.

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yeah they guy who i bought it off had a reciept for 12.5k... and if someone buys mine i will have enough for the hollinger...

modena are good. but mainly porsche. what about albins?

have seen plenty of albins gearsets in older cars like S1 RX7s etc and other cars getting around in various state series but haven't seen then used in any GTRs or much other modern stuff but that doesn't mean there aren't any out there. the guys with RX7s seemed happy with them, but they are a much lighter car, with mush less traction and much less power than the average GTR.

The hollinger is bloody expensive up front but it's still the best "value" option. Yeah it's $20K but they are sequential, 6 speed, light and compact, last well and have fantastic re-sale. a newly serviced one will sell anywhere from $12K-$15K easily.

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Which Holinger box can be adapted to accept the GTR transfer case: http://www.my105.com/Classifieds/tabid/61/k/holinger/Default.aspx

from memory they are a version of the H6S SEQ. not sure what exact model. I think you need to buy the GTR specific one. not just adapt a 'generic' model, though it's probably possible, most likely just need a clutch to match the input shaft, correct length tail shaft and a rear housing or adapter on it to mate to the transfer case. if you're serious about it talk to hollinger, they are pretty helpful.

http://www.holinger.com.au/

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dodge them mate, thats my personal opinion based heavily on my experiences with them. I have gone to a different gearset and the par one sits on the bench as a paperweight, they are garbage. On pulldown it had hairline cracks on the gear faces, poorly cleaned up machine marks(burrs ect) bearing mating surfaces were not in tolerance ect ect and its still waiting to be settled by small claims.

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dodge them mate, thats my personal opinion based heavily on my experiences with them. I have gone to a different gearset and the par one sits on the bench as a paperweight, they are garbage. On pulldown it had hairline cracks on the gear faces, poorly cleaned up machine marks(burrs ect) bearing mating surfaces were not in tolerance ect ect and its still waiting to be settled by small claims.

Did you end up going with Modena? When I spoke with Frank he had a 6-speed designed for a R32/R33 GTR casing but had not ever made any yet.

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