Lambchop With A Renault Axis Here...

[WAGON_BOY]

What's the story behind the car with the truck exhaust? It must be a joke...

its actually a pretty common thing in some groups in japan!!! alot of cars are styled just like that celica..............

[Commsman]

its actually a pretty common thing in some groups in japan!!! alot of cars are styled just like that celica..............

Haha, I love the use of the term 'styled'. Like trailer parks sometimes get 'styled' by tornados .

[prince_skyline]

its actually a pretty common thing in some groups in japan!!! alot of cars are styled just like that celica..............

Wouldn't say it was pretty common though............ - exhaust is derived from the JDM trend 'Bosozoku style' and the flares are commonly combined with what the Japanese call 'low ride' and is known as 'Shakotan style'...

Edited November 14, 2011 by prince_skyline

[WAGON_BOY]

i bought a trans temp guage hoping to have a look under the car tomorrow for a spot to install the prob in the sump or maybe in the outlet fluid line to the cooler.............

[bigkevracer]

Interesting. Is it really necessary though? Just curious...

What did you get?

[Daleo]

i bought a trans temp guage hoping to have a look under the car tomorrow for a spot to install the prob in the sump or maybe in the outlet fluid line to the cooler.............

I'd be looking to braze/weld a bung into the sump. Best spot for it. In the fluid line; you won't know what's going on when in manual mode (the GB isolates the cooler circuit) which is probably when you need it the most.

I've been idly wondering about the worth of welding a series of bungs into the trans sump (or a 1/2"plate tapped with BSP threads) one for temp gauge, one for a temp switch and a couple for a low pressure electric pump fed external cooler.

This would get around the issue of the gearbox bypassing the cooler then in manual tiptronic mode (when it's needed most). I know people reliably use small low pressure VDO pumps to scavenge and return oil to the sump in turbo setups where the drains are below sump level.

That said; it might be a bit more effort and expanse than is absolutely necessary...

An interesting thread for some detail; http://www.rbracing-rsr.com/oilsystems.htm

Edited November 22, 2011 by Daleo

[WAGON_BOY]

I'd be looking to braze/weld a bung into the sump. Best spot for it. In the fluid line; you won't know what's going on when in manual mode (the GB isolates the cooler circuit) which is probably when you need it the most.

exactly!!!! some people might think its a waste of time but i think its important seeing as i have it in manual mode 90% of the time and i dont want to destroy the fluid or the GB.

I've been idly wondering about the worth of welding a series of bungs into the trans sump (or a 1/2"plate tapped with BSP threads) one for temp gauge, one for a temp switch and a couple for a low pressure electric pump fed external cooler.

yeah might aswell get 4 bungs put in cant hurt really.

[bigkevracer]

If you drive around in manual a lot why don't you try Aaron and Scotty's unlock mod? Its on here somewhere if you search, or I've got it bookmarked at home. Makes the cooler work all the time, even when it's in manual mode.

I'm looking at doing it when I get the shift kit and trans cooler in.

[Daleo]

If you drive around in manual a lot why don't you try Aaron and Scotty's unlock mod? Its on here somewhere if you search, or I've got it bookmarked at home. Makes the cooler work all the time, even when it's in manual mode.

I'm looking at doing it when I get the shift kit and trans cooler in.

Doesn't that unlock the converter too?

I'd just like to be able to run the cooler when in manual mode with the converter locked. I'm pretty sure the unlock mod is pretty devastating for fuel economy too...

[Commsman]

Doesn't that unlock the converter too?

I'd just like to be able to run the cooler when in manual mode with the converter locked. I'm pretty sure the unlock mod is pretty devastating for fuel economy too...

I'd heard that from Aaron, & it would want to be a great mod before I decided to go backwards on fuel economy. My ethos is always 'more for less', & I'm not sure that mod fits the job description.

[WAGON_BOY]

yeah there's no way im doing wire cut mods........ and yeah the idea of the converter always being open and loosing power and fuel ecconomy its not worth it!!!!

Dale's idea with an external feed/pump to a cooler is probly the best way of doing it!!!

[Daleo]

yeah there's no way im doing wire cut mods........ and yeah the idea of the converter always being open and loosing power and fuel ecconomy its not worth it!!!!

Dale's idea with an external feed/pump to a cooler is probly the best way of doing it!!!

I don't think you lose power as such; because the converter is open, it'll actually build boost quicker because it flares a little.

The only issues I can see are the obvious necessity of a $250 pump & attendant lines, and a cooler; that's before you factor in modifying the sump with internal pick up and returns at opposite ends, to ensure you're cooling effectively, not just re-cooling the oil that just came out of the return.

Also, it's added complication when a decent sized cooler and a thermostat will probably do the job 90% of the time.

[zei20l]

with a big cooler and a thermostat, there is nothing to stop you from getting the transmission mod that keep the cooler piping open all the time..........

[WAGON_BOY]

getting there slowly but so much more to do

Edited December 7, 2011 by WAGON_BOY

[jasevr4]

Tell me if I'm wrong, but surely driving in manual mode for a few minutes and then chucking it back in D would be fine? Let everything cool off and then have some fun again?

I fairly regularly drop it back into 2nd to drive through a roundabout and then chuck it back into D. *shrugs*

[Commsman]

Totally fine IMO, & more than a few minutes wouldn't hurt either.

[Jetwreck]

Tell me if I'm wrong, but surely driving in manual mode for a few minutes and then chucking it back in D would be fine? Let everything cool off and then have some fun again?

I fairly regularly drop it back into 2nd to drive through a roundabout and then chuck it back into D. *shrugs*

It depends on load I guess.....I know when my car was stock it was not a huge issue going across the gate all the time but I never stayed there more than a couple of minutes. But... with a little bit of HP/NM the standard GB cooks pretty quickly(better once the HD2 kit is done)........a couple of minutes wont hurt though imo......best idea is to knock it across the gate after the second gear shift.......with the standard turbo revving the thing to 6,500rpm is a waist anyway + your already doing over 110km's.

Mind you Paul you will find after you do a couple of the VB's a difference in oil colour between those who drive across the gate all the time and those that don't.

Edited December 7, 2011 by Jetwreck

[Commsman]

I was thinking of drawing up a simple mod to allow the ATF to pump thru the cooler whilst in manual mode, BUT switch back to standard when in D, thus not buggering my exceptional fuel economy. I'll work on this soon, maybe this weekend, & post some results if anyone is interested.

Craig, I wouldn't have though there'd be that much difference in fluid colour (I'm guessing some looked a bit 'burnt'?) so I will be using manual mode sparingly until I sort something.

[zei20l]

im interested. Would this be a wiring mod or require any additional parts beyond a switch/wires??

With the shift kit in, there is less slippage therefore less heat created

[Commsman]

im interested. Would this be a wiring mod or require any additional parts beyond a switch/wires??

Maybe a relay so it happens automatically, but it shouldn't cost more than pocket change. I haven't had more than a cursory glance, but noticed a few things when reading up on speed wires for the cruise control.