truck coolers? you opinion.

[Mr GTS4]

i would like to know what you guys think of garrett truck coolers. cos i have had mixed reports about them. one is they are too laggy and don't flow as much and the other is it doesn't really matter cos you only lose about 2rwkw anyway..

anyone like to clean this up for me and other people interested in getting truck

coolers.

[Steve]

buy a decent cooler, if you fark around trying to save a few bucks, it will only cost you in either performance or dollars when you fit it, realise it is crap and fit another one.

unless you drive a truck, dont waste your time and money. Get a decent jap brand or hybrid, second hand GTR etc, something that is a known good thing, and is desigened to work with your application.

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[WLD747]

ive got a garret custom cooler made for my skyline and its one of the best cores you can get. Ive had very little psi drop and increase in top end air flow. With any cooler you will get minimal lag due to the piping being long. Ive been in a mates skyline with a brand name cooler and have noticed little difference between mine and his. So in my opinion get the garrett you will be suprised how well it does.

cheers

ak

[nitemare5]

i think the cores are ok... as long as you have good pipework and good cast end tanks to go with the intercooler core, then it will be ok. but i have seen many vl owners with those truck coolers with end tanks that are 90 degrees at the back of the core.. now those are the ones i would stay away from.

[Warpspeed]

A lot depends on how far you have to cut it down to make it fit. If you get a cooler from a 600 BHP truck that is four feet high, and cut it down so its only one foot high, it then might be ideal for a 150 BHP truck.

There are too many if's. It might be o/k and it might not. I am with Steve on this, get a proper aftermarket cooler, or a GTR cooler is a pretty good start for a lot of things.

Even if Garrett cores are the finest designed cores in the world, they still might not suit a totally different application.

[xRHETTx]

Every 1psi pressure drop across the cooler is 1 psi less boost your actually getting from your turbo. Say if your turbo is making 14psi and you have a crap truck cooler that has 4psi pressure drop, ur only actually getting 10psi.

So get a proper cooler with the least pressure drop as possible, that also cools well, as every 4 degree drop in air inlet temp is 1% extra power.

[Roy]

Not all cores are the same, and often truck cores are let down by shocking end tanks that hurt flow and dont promote even distribution and good cooling.

So not so much a matter of the core being good or bad, but i think the avergae result of using a truck core is poor, but not really entirely the fault of the core.

By the time its chopped down, ned tanks made with new piping, is it really any cheaper??? Doesnt represent the same $$$ savings it once did when coolers were 3k installed

[BHDave]

There are that many different types of truck cores available that you cant just write them all off.

Some have quite large runners that will flow no problem, others have massive spaces between relatively small runners that are designed to allow more air to the radiator (generally the ones that are 4 foot square) and will mean it doesn't cool for shit once cutdown.

That said, you can buy a new hybrid for as little as 550 that will do the job nicely and save yourself alot of time/trouble/money getting end tanks fabricated to suit a truck core that may or may not do the job.

[0HR-30T]

I used to have a Garrett ex-truck intercooler on my FJ20.With only 10psi blowing through it,the FJ made 246HP at the wheels.Now a brand name core might have let it make 255HP,but 246 isn't that bad either....My cooler had thick cores,and was 3inches think.If you make decent tanks for them,I don't think they're too bad.

[Guest RedLineGTR]

you pay what u get for...some truck coolers are half decent for cooling some are just pathetic.

[makaveli]

I have heard that truck coolers are fine, although on serious performance 6 Mick from Micks Metal Craft says that they are not suitable. He believes that they are made to suit a trucks rev range. Where with performance cars he said rev out much more so a custom or aftermarket cooler is much more efficient.

hope that helps

[Roy]

Rev range??? surely cfm is cfm, whether its being made at 3,000rpm or 7,000rpm.

[0HR-30T]

Rev range??? surely cfm is cfm, whether its being made at 3,000rpm or 7,000rpm.

I agree.Revs has nothing to do with it,it's the flow.Another thing,when people say "they get a 400HP truck cooler,chopped to a third of its size and they still expect it to flow 400HP." Well,why wouldn't it? Take into account that most truck engines are 10L or more,and require massive amounts of air flow,compared to a 2L or 2.5L engine.

[makaveli]

maybe thats what he means although he distinctly mentioned rev range in the movie.

check it out...

take it easy

Mark

[Mr GTS4]

yeah i have the dvd and i think the guy is nuts personally. at the moment i am looking at different cores. there are so many of them so only time will tell.

[MarioGTR]

i would like to know what you guys think of garrett truck coolers. cos i have had mixed reports about them. one is they are too laggy and don't flow as much and the other is it doesn't really matter cos you only lose about 2rwkw anyway..

anyone like to clean this up for me and other people interested in getting truck

coolers.

Truck inercoolers are great - if you have a truck.

They are useless on a performance car.

Mario.

[PTR33]

Truck inercoolers are great - if you have a truck.

They are useless on a performance car.

Mario.

Um, I think that just about closes this thread.....

[S3_Girl]

My friend has one in his his 392rwkw supra, run's 10.8, another friend has one in his t28 equipped 180 sx, still makes the same 170rwkw on 15psi as everyones elses does with proper coolers. Another friend had one on his vl turbo with 240rwkw, changed to a hybrid core and it made no more power. So I'm not sure what to make of it, I've always bought proper cores. Also if anyone has ever looked at the original Nizpro cores(the massive ones)they are definitly truck cores, Simon must of made a mint of these as he charged around 2 grand when new.

[EnricoPalazzo]

who cares, dont be so tight. U have a performance car, spend a few hundred extra and get somethin that was made for ur car.

[DoughBoy]

who cares, dont be so tight. U have a performance car, spend a few hundred extra and get somethin that was made for ur car.

So, if large frame turbocharger development came from diesel motors, why do people persist on putting them on performance petrol cars? Hell, I think that the majority of turbocharger design came from truck or heavy industrial motors.

The TA45 is a good example, it's a truck turbo. But TRY-09S seems to be doin' ok from it. Greddy turbos, as SKid has pointedly referred to, are a Mitsubisi Heavy Industry product found on commercial vehicles.

CFM is CFM, and if it can work (and work well) in an application that it wasn't specifically designed for then what's the problem?