Wideband Kits

[noddle]

Anyone using the 14point7 wideband?

I've been conyemplating one for ages but that plx one has a much nicer display and would be easier to mount

I have owned 2 product from Alan To,

a Jaws Wideband - http://noddle.webuda.com/JAW%20wideband%20O2/index.html

and a NAW_OEM - http://noddle.webuda.com/NAW_OEM/index.html

both were DIY

I used the ADis Display with the NAW_OEM, as seen in the second link.

Both work very well, I'm still using the NAW_OEM in my Turboed 240K.

Here's a youtube vid showing how it's configures with Megasquirt

http://14point7.com/forum/index.php?topic=524.0

Nigel

[pipster11]

Good to hear

What is the OEM wiband thing? Can someone explain it to me please ?

[noddle]

Good to hear

What is the OEM wiband thing? Can someone explain it to me please ?

The one I have is not sold anymore to the public,

from his forum..

"NAW_OEM will only be available for OEM customers, it will no longer be available to the end user."

you should have a look around his site

http://14point7.com

and the forum

http://14point7.com/forum/index.php

and for his older stuff you can see some on it here.

http://www.14point7.com/Support.php

if you are talking about the "SLC OEM", I have one that I have not put together yet,

I was going to use it in my other car, but decided to keep it as a 'spare', incase my NAW_OEM unit dies.

Nigel

Edited November 25, 2011 by noddle

[pipster11]

Yeah but what is the slc OEM? The description is very technical but doesn't actually say what its for

[noddle]

Yeah but what is the slc OEM? The description is very technical but doesn't actually say what its for

SLC OEM is a miniature Lambda Controller suitable for integration into your electronic designs.

The module is complete and requires only an external 5v power supply. The module runs cool and does not require a heatsink of any kind.

Interfacing options include a 0-5[v] Linear Output and I2C.Up to 32 SLC OEM units can share the same I2C bus.

http://14point7.com/SLC-OEM.php

it does not have a display, you could use the ADis AFR Display,

Nigel

Edited November 25, 2011 by noddle

[pipster11]

Yeah I can read, I just don't understand why you would use this.

Do you put it inside the stock ecu case or with an after market ecu that supports widebands ?

[Checkbuzz]

Well the product in the comparison is different from the one in the link however those results are a little worrying...

I find it diffcult to believe that a US company would go around making wildly false claims about the accuracy of a wideband AFR meter.

The good 'ol US litigation lawyers would have a firggin field day with that!

Accurate to 1 AFR is a very long way off the claimed <0.1 AFR

I would suggest that the device was faulty or the testing flawed in some way

(which appears to be the case if you read on from the test results in this thread)

Depends how much you buy into that comparison a couple of pages back.

PLX was one of the most inaccurate widebands in that comparison. Kit looks sexy though, I'll admit.

Still looking at the MTX-L. Haven't been able to find anything bad about the new range, seems all the negatives are written about the older Innovate gear.

[Hanaldo]

Do any other AEM UEGO users have an issue with their gauge whining? I'm not sure if it's supposed to do this, but I would have thought not. My gauge whines really badly, it sounds almost like an exhaust leak. It's farkin annoying

[JustinP]

I am about to bite the bullet and buy one of these:

http://www.plxdevices.com/wideband.php

Can someone please confirm that this will work with:

1) 0-5V wideband input for my FC Datalogit.

2) 0-1V narrowband input to my PowerFC to completely replace my 02 sensor with the wideband Bosch sensor.

I think I will also buy an oil pressure sensor too:

http://www.plxdevices.com/sensors.php

Where would be the best place to tap this sensor into the system? I would like to keep the stock oil pressure sender in the oil cooler/warmer if possible.

Thanks!!!

[Checkbuzz]

I have ordered mine as well

Oil pressure is also next on my list...

If you have a look at the specs in that link the outputs appear to be suitable for your requirements... there is even a link on using it to replace your current stock 02 sensor!

I am about to bite the bullet and buy one of these:

http://www.plxdevices.com/wideband.php

Can someone please confirm that this will work with:

1) 0-5V wideband input for my FC Datalogit.

2) 0-1V narrowband input to my PowerFC to completely replace my 02 sensor with the wideband Bosch sensor.

I think I will also buy an oil pressure sensor too:

http://www.plxdevices.com/sensors.php

Where would be the best place to tap this sensor into the system? I would like to keep the stock oil pressure sender in the oil cooler/warmer if possible.

Thanks!!!

[JustinP]

I finally put in my order for both the wideband and the oil pressure sensor too, will let everyone know how they go!

I have ordered mine as well

Oil pressure is also next on my list...

If you have a look at the specs in that link the outputs appear to be suitable for your requirements... there is even a link on using it to replace your current stock 02 sensor!

[89CAL]

Do any other AEM UEGO users have an issue with their gauge whining? I'm not sure if it's supposed to do this, but I would have thought not. My gauge whines really badly, it sounds almost like an exhaust leak. It's farkin annoying

Hmmm sounds a bit weird. mine makes no noise at all that im aware of. definetly can't hear it with the car on if it does. Its definetly coming from that gauge?

[Hanaldo]

Hmmm sounds a bit weird. mine makes no noise at all that im aware of. definetly can't hear it with the car on if it does. Its definetly coming from that gauge?

Yeh it is. At first I thought it was my dump pipe leaking as I couldn't get one of the turbo bolts in tightly (THAT bolt with the JJR bellmouth).

But then when I installed my new turbo I replaced all the bolts with high tensile Allen key bolts, so I got them all done up nicely. Took it for a drive and noticed the whining was still there, so I stuck my ear next to the gauge and it's definitely coming from that.

[Race__24]

I recently got a MTX-L and it works a treat so far.

They are actually cheaper to get them direct from one of the Australian dealers than from eBay, which is good if you should ever need warranty

[Moodles2]

I have a MTX-L as well, I haven't got around to welding a wideband bung into cat (pre-cat) yet

[ARTZ]

can someone tell me if all widebands are able to be plugged into the ecu or do only some have this feature?

I've been told my ECU has a learning function that can be quite handy if set up correctly but not sure if any wideband kit will do the job..

[89CAL]

Vipec and link can do this from memory. not sure about others. power fc can't but you can plug it in with datalogit etc to log AFR'S in map watch

[ARTZ]

Yeah I know my adaptronic ecu does it too

I'm just wondering if all wideband kits are able to be plugged in.

Thought I read something in here about AEM kits can't be plugged in.

[zebra]

Not all of them have an output

Best to check before you buy. My tech edge one has an output but some ecu's require manual configuring where some are pre done for the tech edge. Same goes for other brands

So check your ecu software for a list of what is already setup. Iirc the adaptronic has drop downs for most common wide bands

[89CAL]

The AEM has an analog output which is what I use for logging with the power fc

Check if that's what you need. should be it but. should just have to set the voltages that correspond with AFR's (these values are given in the AEM manual) but double check with your ECU manual to see if this is all it needs